Comic Book Martial Artist Hierarchy

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yeah, I know. Your thread was in the Comic Books sub-section.

Nobody edited OP in either thread in ages, this hierarchy thing is quite dead.

You should be glad you missed plenty of posts here, people like riv still think of the Punisher as of some noob fighter.

I don't blame people entirely for thinking that Punisher is third tier his martial art skil can vary depending on the writer.

I think it's a good thing in the end that xmarks took it over he was better at organizing, could have given me some props though.

EDIT: Oh and Punisher for second tier 💃

Originally posted by Senor Cage
BTW, here is the scan.

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Originally posted by Deadline
I don't blame people entirely for thinking that Punisher is third tier his martial art skil can vary depending on the writer.

Some have him way below that, though.

Which is nonsense. Guns and knives are incorporated in Frank's fighting style, much as superhuman physicals are in Deathstroke's or Gorgon's case. Even without them, he's proven to be competent.

Originally posted by Deadline
I think it's a good thing in the end that xmarks took it over he was better at organizing, could have given me some props though.

You know how it is on the Internet. Everything is being stolen all the time; pics, videos, thread ideas...

Anyway, xmark quit KMC one year after making this thread.

Originally posted by Deadline
EDIT: Oh and Punisher for second tier 💃

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Liked his fight with Widow in War Zone.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Some have him way below that, though.

Which is nonsense. Guns and knives are incorporated in Frank's fighting style, much as superhuman physicals are in Deathstroke's or Gorgon's case. Even without them, he's proven to be competent.

You know how it is on the Internet. Everything is being stolen all the time; pics, videos, thread ideas...

Anyway, xmark quit KMC one year after making this thread.

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Liked his fight with Widow in War Zone.

That fight was dull......sure you don't mean Secret Empire? I didn't get that.

Haven't read Secret Empire.

It's shown them as equals, which is exactly what Frank needs in this thread, considering how BW is in Second Tier.

Also, it was 10 times better than Frank's brief skirmish with Gray Suit Widow.

Originally posted by Zack M
Prometheus stated Midnighter was one of the best fighters on the planet. Right up there with Lady Shiva, Batman, James Armorr, etc...

Originally posted by Zack M
BTW, here is the scan.

Forgot to delete a scan and Tinypic replaced it. No wonder he does the work he does.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Forgot to delete a scan and Tinypic replaced it. No wonder he does the work he does.

Did they, though??

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Did they, though??

Or maybe he was just looking at kids playing with balloons and copied it to post to his balloon forum, and accidentally posted it here? Meant to show his balloon creep friends but he didn't upload it so he couldn't delete it?

The fact that it wasn't deleted makes me think there's a higher power at play here

Why is Thanos in the uber tier? Because he taught Gamora?

Moondragon.. Remind me, what is her hype based on? She's really that far above Captain America or someone like Daredevil?

Midnighter is just so damn fast and skilled he appears as 2 kids playing with balloons and think we have a winner.

Originally posted by cdtm
Why is Thanos in the uber tier? Because he taught Gamora?

Moondragon.. Remind me, what is her hype based on? She's really that far above Captain America or someone like Daredevil?

Looks like she beat Cap, and Mantis.

I just saw the Cap scan for myself. The SSS effects were wearing off. And, he was mind controlled.

So that effectively rules that out, which leaves Mantis.

Sounds impressive on paper, but how is this different from Batman outfighting Val in Zero G combat? No one's putting Batman on Uber tier, are they?

Not to say Moondragon is unimpressive, she's clearly up there with Shang Chi and Daredevil. But Karate Kid? Gamora? Really?

i agree.

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/images/1300-1292224

Wtf?!

That's literally having someone swing a bag of bricks up your @$$... Powered by a howitzer.. Yeesh.

Durability feat.

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Originally posted by cdtm
Gamora?

Gamora is a nobody, she always relied on her Wolverine-like enhancements and Iron Man-level strength to deal with her foes.

Originally posted by leonidas
i agree.

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/images/1300-1292224

Your link doesn't work, old man. Always post direct ones.

Originally posted by Senor Cage
BTW, here is the scan.

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Whatever the hierarchy, we all must agree that Iron Fist is an unathletic entry level martial artist.

Basically a low level Cody Mckenzie-esque fighter. He sucks.

Oh, I agree Iron Fist is no martial artist.

He is Marvels HERO OF TRUTH! He's essentially the western All Might, by power type and attitude.

"Eternal Dragon SMASH!"

YouTube video

The glowing hand = win button. Tell me that isn't totally based off the Iron Fist.

One great hero in the west, inspires another in the East. 👆

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