Darth Malgus vs Sith

Started by Nephthys16 pages

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
My friend, focus on Malgus's duel with Kao Cen Darach.

This Jedi Master was no joke. He demonstrated impressive skills with the Lightsaber and also the Force.

This Jedi Master could perform impressive acrobatics while dueling his opponents,

For a Jedi, it was not that impressive.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
withstood the lightsaber barrage from two powerful Sith Lords simultaneously and knocked one out in the process while fending off the other.

Its not too impressive for Malgus if you point out that he was being manhandled along with his master by said Jedi Master.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
In addition, he could force push opponents around like ragdolls, and also could hurl large and heavy objects at his opponents like missiles with the Force comfortably.

YouTube video

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Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
And yet these abilities were not enough to stop Darth Malgus.

Malgus was not the one fighting two opponents at once. It wasn't a legitimate victor for him given that Kao Cen Darach had to fight Malgus' master as well.

Originally posted by Nephthys
For a Jedi, it was not that impressive.

It was pretty impressive considering WHO he was fighting. And he seemed like a badass duelist in the video.

Its not too impressive for Malgus if you point out that he was being manhandled along with his master by said Jedi Master.
Not sure "manhandled" is the right word. It just seemed that Malgus and his master kept getting in each other's way and the Jedi took advantage of it.


Malgus was not the one fighting two opponents at once. It wasn't a legitimate victor for him given that Kao Cen Darach had to fight Malgus' master as well.
Well, Malgus got into his groove when his master was injured and just wtfpwned the jedi. Then again, Im not sure why the Jedi didn't continue dueling with the two blades as he did against the sith, it would have helped him because Malgus had two blades at that instance.

Originally posted by Sith Sorcerer
It was pretty impressive considering WHO he was fighting. And he seemed like a badass duelist in the video.

Some no-name Sith and padawan Malgus?

Originally posted by Sith Sorcerer
Not sure "manhandled" is the right word. It just seemed that Malgus and his master kept getting in each other's way and the Jedi took advantage of it.

He was kinda kicking their asses imo. I agree that they did keep getting in each others way, but you could also say he used them against each other, like when he channels the lightning right into Malgus' chest. that was pretty badass.

Originally posted by Sith Sorcerer
Well, Malgus got into his groove when his master was injured and just wtfpwned the jedi. Then again, Im not sure why the Jedi didn't continue dueling with the two blades as he did against the sith, it would have helped him because Malgus had two blades at that instance.

My point was that the guy had to be pretty tired by that point. He'd been fighting two sith extensively and using the Force quite a bit. But he didn't throw the second lightsaber away or anything, Malgus knocked it out of his hand.

Originally posted by Nephthys
For a Jedi, it was not that impressive.

He did not needed to perform Yoda like acrobatics to prove his skills. He was evading and countering the lightsaber barrage from two skilled Sith Lords simultaneously with great proficiency, which few Jedi could manage.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Its not too impressive for Malgus if you point out that he was being manhandled along with his master by said Jedi Master.

And yet Malgus managed to kill such a powerful Jedi Master? Is it not too impressive?

Of course, when you are dueling with a powerful opponent; you may face some overwhelming moments.

Originally posted by Nephthys
YouTube video

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That was very impressive. It proves that Vader is no push over.

However, what Kao Cen Darach did is no small feat either:

Kao throws this thing at Maglus like a missile.

Kao also demonstrated Yoda level capability in deflecting and redirecting the Force Lightning. He dominated Vindican with his powers, who was Malgus's Sith Master.

Kao seems to be more powerful then Dooku.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Malgus was not the one fighting two opponents at once. It wasn't a legitimate victor for him given that Kao Cen Darach had to fight Malgus' master as well.

This makes no sense.

It was a legitimate victory considering how Malgus was not stopped by 3 large objects that were hurled towards him like missiles and he knocked out Kao in a clean duel in the end with his overwhelming strikes.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Some no-name Sith and padawan Malgus?

That no-name Sith was Vindican, who was a Sith Inquisitor and Sith Master of Malgus.

Originally posted by Nephthys
He was kinda kicking their asses imo. I agree that they did keep getting in each others way, but you could also say he used them against each other, like when he channels the lightning right into Malgus' chest. that was pretty badass.

Yes, those showings are testament to skills of Kao.

Originally posted by Nephthys
My point was that the guy had to be pretty tired by that point. He'd been fighting two sith extensively and using the Force quite a bit. But he didn't throw the second lightsaber away or anything, Malgus knocked it out of his hand.

Pretty tired? By this logic, Malgus should have been pretty tired too after he got his @ss handed to him and specially ripping through that huge engine.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
He did not needed to perform Yoda like acrobatics to prove his skills. He was evading and countering the lightsaber barrage from two skilled Sith Lords simultaneously with great proficiency, which few Jedi could manage.

But Bane could, as seen when he fought 2 Battle-Meditationed Jedi Masters at once and completely kicked their shit in through most of the fight.

Likewise Vader has fought multiple skilled foes at once. I can think of at least 2 times when he's fought 4 or more Jedi opponents at once and beaten them.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
And yet Malgus managed to kill such a powerful Jedi Master? Is it not too impressive?

Of course, when you are dueling with a powerful opponent; you may face some overwhelming moments.

Its impressive to be sure. But its not one the level of Vader or Bane, who have fought much more impressive foes. Vader for instance can fight Starkiller almost equally with the latter just having an edge on him, and Bane facing Kas'im, the above mentioned BM'ed Jedi Masters and Zannah.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
That was very impressive. It proves that Vader is no push over.

However, what Kao Cen Darach did is no small feat either:

Kao throws this thing at Maglus like a missile.

I never said that he wasn't impressive, just that he isn't up to standards of Vader and Bane.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Kao also demonstrated Yoda level capability in deflecting and redirecting the Force Lightning. He dominated Vindican with his powers, who was Malgus's Sith Master.

Kao seems to be more powerful then Dooku.

Its not Yoda level. Kao used a lightsaber, which is makes it much easier to deflect lightning. Yoda was barehanding that shit like a pro.

He needs a little bit more under his belt before he's on Dooku's level. But if you're so confident we could argue it in a proper thread. Hell, Vader and Bane vs Malgus as well if you'd like.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
This makes no sense.

It was a legitimate victory considering how Malgus was not stopped by 3 large objects that were hurled towards him like missiles and he knocked out Kao in a clean duel in the end with his overwhelming strikes.

I've explained my reasoning for why its not a clean win for him. Kao had to fight Malgus' master at the same time he was fighting Malgus, meaning he would have had to work twice as hard than Malgus was.

Plus its not like those objects were effective at all. He just casually slashes them in half. If anything it would have just exhausted Kao out doing all that heavy Force use.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
That no-name Sith was Vindican, who was a Sith Inquisitor and Sith Master of Malgus.

So he has a name. Cool?

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Yes, those showings are testament to skills of Kao.

Meh.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Pretty tired? By this logic, Malgus should have been pretty tired too after he got his @ss handed to him and specially ripping through that huge engine.

He didn't get his ass handed to him. Kao Force Waves the ground and he simply backs off until his master is defeated, giving him time to recover. Plus Malgus was not fighting two opponents at once in taht fight.

But even then, even if we agree that he did defeat Kao legitimately, it would not be enough to put him on Vader or Banes level, both of which would annihilate Kao.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Likewise Vader has fought multiple skilled foes at once. I can think of at least 2 times when he's fought 4 or more Jedi opponents at once and beaten them.
If the RotS video-game is counted, it actually happened like 50 times.

It is indeed counted.

I am pleased.

RotS video game dueling was entirely broken.

I liked it. Good for multiplayer.

Well said.

Dooku sucked, though. Drallig was much better.

I loved it. Multiplayer kicked ass.

I was always Serra Keto. Dual Sabers + Smexy gurl = win.

Drallig was much better than Sera Keto. But she, in turn, was well beyond Dooku, so I guess she was all right.

Windu was the best fighter.

Dooku and Kenobi (Ben and Obi) were the weakest iirc. I can't remember if Grievous was any good though.

The only way Windu would surpass Drallig is if the Republic endorsed Affirmative Action. Otherwise, the old White Man wins again.

Drallig was the best, he had the strongest power attacks, and it was hard to activate block once his normal attacks hit you.

Thank you, my disciple.

Drallig, Vader and Keto were boss in that game. Dooku and Kenobi were unreasonably weak.

SM
Dooku and Kenobi were unreasonably weak.

Profiled.

Nah. Windu did more damage than Drallig and has better combo's etc. He was just the all-round best character I found.

Edit: Vader was way too slow.

Neph
Nah. Windu did more damage than Drallig and has better combo's etc. He was just the all-round best character I found.

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