Originally posted by Zampanó
From the written rules of this section:(reported)
seem (sm)
intr.v. seemed, seem·ing, seems
1. To give the impression of being; appear: The child seems healthy, but the doctor is concerned.
2. To appear to one's own opinion or mind: I can't seem to get the story straight.
3. To appear to be true, probable, or evident: It seems you object to the plan. It seems like rain. He seems to have worked in sales for several years.
4. To appear to exist: There seems no reason to postpone it.
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And I thought you were one of the smarter members of this forum, so I don't know rather to take you serious or not. But it doesn't matter. lol
Go ahead and report me. And while you're at it why don't you go ahead and put me on ignore, since my posts seems to bother you so much, instead of following along behind LeGend trying defend him. I'm sure LeGend is a big boy. If he is offended by anything I've told him then he can either PM me, put me on ignore, or even report me himself. Your unecessary involvement is not needed.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Any one proficient in the use of Force lightning would be able to perform that feat.
Fail. Name another time someones killed 30 people at once with a single blast of lightning.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Here;A dozen bolts of lightning sprang from Nyriss’s hand, arcing across the room to incinerate her enemies. Instead of leaping back into the cell to avoid the deadly attack, [B]Revan stepped forward to intercept it. Both hands were held in front of him, his arms fully extended at shoulder height, his thumbs touching and his fingers splayed wide. He drew the bolts of lightning into his waiting grasp, channeling them away from their intended targets and absorbing their power.
He actually uses his bare hands to absorb and deflect.[/b]
Thats what I said.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Yes, it does. Force can be used to absorb the effects of Force lightning. Lightsaber is another useful tool.
Whats your proof? You're clearly making this up as you go along. The Force can be used to absorb lightning with your hands, as we see when Yoda does it, but I've seen nothing even suggesting that you can make your body resistant to lightning.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
It indicates a different intensity of energy. Just like green Force lightning indicates a different intensity of energy.
Again, actually use evidence to support your point. Prove that purple lightning is more powerful than blue lightning.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
He blocks his Force lightning with bare hands. Something that any powerful Jedi would be able to do.
Bull. ****ing. Shit.
Mace Windu had a lightsaber and he could barely block Sidious' Force Lightning. The same Mace Windu who can punch Superbattle Droids apart with his bare hands.
To even suggest that any powerful Jedi would be able to block Sidious' Force Lightning with his bare hands just shows how massively biased you are. Firstly, being able to block lightning with your hands is an extremely difficult ability to perform. I believe its been described as 'almost impossible' do learn. Secondly, Darth Sidious is well in contention as the most powerful Sith of all time. And Thirdly, Darth Sidious' skill with Force Lightning is one of the greatest in the mythos. Not 'any powerful Jedi' can block his lightning.
Galen Marek deflecting Sidious' lightning was because he Galen mother****ing Marek and he can do that. But even then Galen, despite how insanely overpowered he is (I would argue he stands a good chance against Vitiate.) was explicitly described as 'Starkiller was ultimately no match for the power of Darth Sidious." (Star Wars databank)
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Master Yoda did it and he did not died by it.
Hey, guess what, Master Yoda is one of the greatest Jedi of all time. I know you hate the PT with an inexplicable passion, but thats fact.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Creatures cannot use the Force to protect themselves from the Force lightning. Don't try to preach that creatures have the same resistance as that of powerful Jedi and Sith.
You still have failed to provide any evidence that Jedi and Sith can protect themselves from the effects of Force Lightning. Until you actually do that you shouldn't make absurd assumptions like this.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Sidious's Force lightning failed to reduce any powerful Jedi to ash. Nyriss's Force lightning was capable of doing it easily. This is the difference.
No doubt Nyriss's lightning was impressive. But Darth Sidious is so powerful that even the Force Monster that is Galen Marek is 'ultimately no match' for him. And Galen Marek can create artificial hurricanes with the Force, destroy a structure that extends into orbit with the Force and redirect an Imperial class Star Destroyer with enough force to damage the hull. This is the difference.
Here is one of the times Sidious disintergrates something with his lightning:
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
A cheap stunt of yours. She could sense the power of other individuals.
Except that Nihilus was a wound in the Force, which as this scene proves (1.17):
Makes it all but impossible properly feel with the Force. 'You were correct Kavar. When she was here, I felt it. It was as if she was not there, more like an echo.' Theres more later in the scene. A wound feels like an 'emptiness' to the Force. Obviously not good for direct power comparisons. 😉
Also, could I get the actual quote?
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
The feat itself is impressive. Not doubts about it.However, AT-AT is a machine. And machines are easier to destroy with the raw power of lightning. Try to understand. The fact that Vader tolerated his Force lightning demonstrates that it all depends upon the defensive abilities installed in his mechanical parts and he being a Force-user, capable of using the Force to shield himself to a certain degree.
Your attempts at downplaying anything from the PT are getting transparent.
And AT-AT is powered by a fusion reactor rather than conventional electricity. I see no evidence that Force Lightning would be super effective against it. And even if and AT-AT was easily destroyed by lightning, Force Lightning is composed of Dark Side energy, not Electricity.
There goes your argument.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Can you imagine how powerful lightning bolt (that originates from sky) actually is? Don't make silly assumptions. AT-AT was not designed to tolerate these things. End of story.
It wasn't designed to tolerate extremely hot energy based attacks? Could have fooled me. 😐
Force Lightning isn't comparable to real world lightning.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
No. Lots of Sith Lords have killed with Force lightning. No big deal. The only thing matters is that whom could produce the most lethal bursts of Force lightning that could destroy VERY POWERFUL individuals. That is where Lord Vitiate stands apart from others.
You said 'Lethal Force lightning attacks would still destroy him.' Unless you were being stupid and talking about how only lightning that would be lethal to Vader would destroy him (which is self-eveident), then your words indicate that you belive that any lethal amount of Force Lightning could kill Darth Vader. This is obviously no the case. I would actually say that Vader has much higher resistance to Lightning than a regular combatant.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I am doing it. Sidious is definitely good with Force Lightning. But it does not proves that he matches the intensity demonstrated by Lord Vitiate or even Lord Nyriss. It actually does not.
The facts say otherwise.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
It is open to interpretation. Also, What about Mace Windu? What about Master Yoda? What is your argument now?
What about them? Sidious did kill Mace Windu with his Force Lightning. And he was clearly overconfident when engaging Yoda, believing he had rendered the Jedi unconscious.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
It was not a fairly weak Force push. This is your typical approach to cheapen the feats of opponents of KOTOR age. The Force push had power behind. A powerful Force push itself never harms you. What actually does is when you get driven in to something by it. Use your brain.
Not true. Darth Banes Force Pushes could liquidise bones. So yes it was a fairly weak Force Push in the grand scheme of things.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
And decent defensive abilities.
I can agree to that.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Sorry. He failed to prove anything concrete.
O RLY? It looks to me like I've owned you once again.
Also if you think that Vitiate can defeat Sidious with his telepathy, think again. Palpatine mind wiped millions if not billions on Coruscant during the construction of one of his super star destroyers. I highly doubt Vitiate can overwhelm Sidious in telepathy.