DE Sidious Versus Darth Caedus

Originally posted by Herbert Spencer
And that Nihilus could defeat Sidious. And that Bane could defeat Sidious. And that Caedus would defeat Sidious. And that Bane would crush Desann. All claims for which you've provided zero evidence.

If you truly require evidence just to understand the truth of these things, then you need to go back to reading the books, and do some deep research, because you're telling me you don't know enough about Star Wars.

Evidence for debate is fine. But right is right and wrong is wrong, and either you know the material, or you don't.

If my claims actually confuse you (as opposed to merely being a breach of common conduct) then you should just go buy some candy, sit down in front of a TV and watch some cartoons.

You'll feel happier, and my posts won't stress you out.😉

Originally posted by Herbert Spencer

I haven't made a single claim about any of this and, as such, have no need to prove anything. I'm extremely clever that way.whip

If you aren't making such claims, then you have nothing to challenge in my arguments. 🙂

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
DE Luke would tool those guys.

Its obvious to anyone with eyes and brains. It's common sense and the only logical conclusion to reach.

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Annoying isn't it?

I know, now you get to revel in your Luke Fanboyism, since a few of the other kids have come over to tell me they don't like how I'm playing the game. 🙄

Luke would still get his ass handed to him by either Peak Caedus or Katarn.

Either DE Luke is very powerful, or DE Sidious is weak - pick one. 🐰

You seem to labor under the delusion that I have to oppose your arguments in order to demand proof for them. I don't.

Originally posted by Battlemaster
Evidence for debate is fine.

Then provide it.

Originally posted by Zampanó
[Clarification: that is to say, arguing about administrative practices of the Prequel-Era Jedi Order is boring. Kind of like arguing about trade routes or ink monopolies: important to the fictional characters on whom the policies are imposing, but utterly irrelevant to even the most die-hard fan.]

I get it. Because it makes me Right in an argument and that steams you.🙄

That's seriously kind of lame.

Okay, from now on, I won't bother to pull out another obscure fact, okay?

😠whip

Originally posted by Herbert Spencer
You seem to labor under the delusion that I have to oppose your arguments in order to demand proof for them. I don't.

So you don't oppose my arguments, then?

DE Sidious is simply superior to Caedus. Is there even a question here?

If I say that Yoda could kill Maul, do I have to provide evidence?

We've never seen Yoda kill Maul before, after all.

Originally posted by Nephthys
DE Sidious is simply superior to Caedus. Is there even a question here?

Yes, I know, with a Force Storm, and likely in the company of a Dark Nexus.

Originally posted by Battlemaster
So you don't oppose my arguments, then?

Whether or not I oppose or support your arguments is irrelevant, but I unambiguously oppose your reluctance to provide evidence for your claims. Your appeals to some sort of previously established objective fact that Nihilus is more powerful than Sidious or that Bane could defeat Desann don't actually make it so.

No, he could kick his ass even without them. The man made Galen Marek look like a chump, Caedus doesn't even compare.

If there isn't room for the Force Storm, then we're left with the guy that DE Luke tooled.

The same Luke that had trouble defeating a Padawan years later, and a Luke much inferior to the one Caedus gave hell to.

How weak is Caedus supposed to be, exactly?

Originally posted by Zampanó

Eurgh. This is the worst kind of internet posturing. People didn't stop responding because they were tacitly conceding, they stopped responding because you're boring. And as far as I can tell, you yourself failed to respond ("dropped the argument"😉 to Arhael's post observing the utter inanity of trying to draw a direct correlation between titles and combat ability.

By even the most crass standards of e-peen brinksmanship, you've got no ground to stand on.

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That argument boiled down to a shouting match while ignoring the distinction between necessary and sufficient conditions which had provoked the confusion in the first place. It's hardly a crowning achievement of discourse, let alone a successful first step in a campaign to invade a message board.

Eurgh. Not only have you constructed a strawman for Spencer to defend, you are holding it to a higher standard of evidence than you are willing to meet.

Protip: None of us (with the possible exception of DP) have the energy or inclination to indulge in a protracted internet-war. We've thrashed out positions and lines of argumentation on most topics and most disputes consist of shorthand references to memories of such arguments. What I'm saying is that the orthodoxy has ossified into a fairly coherent body politik.

If you want to win the internet, it'll take a fair bit of effort to get anyone to confront you in a line-by-line dispute, let alone sway the opinion of the masses. Might I suggest that you try a little more humilitytact and at the very least substantiate your claims? [/B]

Originally posted by Battlemaster
If I say that Yoda could kill Maul, do I have to provide evidence?

I see your poorly developed intellectual fingers are beginning to grasp the concept with all the dexterity of a victim of Lou Gehrig's disease.

This is generally how it works.

Originally posted by Battlemaster
If there isn't room for the Force Storm, then we're left with the guy that DE Luke tooled.

The same Luke that had trouble defeating a Padawan years later, and a Luke much inferior to the one Caedus gave hell to.

How weak is Caedus supposed to be, exactly?

Compared to DE Sidious? I'm thinking a limp-wristed choir boy preparing to take it up the pooper as a good comparison.

Originally posted by Herbert Spencer
Whether or not I oppose or support your arguments is irrelevant, but I unambiguously oppose your reluctance to provide evidence for your claims. Your appeals to some sort of previously established objective fact that Nihilus is more powerful than Sidious or that Bane could defeat Desann don't actually make it so.

So if I said Yoda could kill Maul, I would be wrong there?

Would I need actual evidence provided on a post to show that RotS Mace Windu could kill Zett Jukassa?

Originally posted by Nephthys
Compared to DE Sidious? I'm thinking a limp-wristed choir boy preparing to take it up the pooper.

How did he defeat Kyle then?

The same Kyle far evolved from the one that destroyed Jerec and Desann and the same Kyle who killed countless opponants in the conflicts since then?

Originally posted by Battlemaster
How did he defeat Kyle then?

The same Kyle far evolved from the one that destroyed Jerec and Desann and the same Kyle who killed countless opponants in the conflicts since then?

I believe he threw a car at him.

Originally posted by Battlemaster

Luke would still get his ass handed to him by either Peak Caedus or Katarn.

Originally posted by Battlemaster

Either DE Luke is very powerful, or DE Sidious is weak - pick one. 🐰

I understand the need for evidence in posts, but George Lucas doesn't specify each factoid in blood.

Understanding different Jedi and Sith, it's fairly easy to see who would kill the other.