Odin Vs Phoenix

http://www.formspring.me/TomBrevoort/q/328890845065405087

Q😛hoenix has been stated to have control over all matter. Odin doesn't trump that. That's just silly.

A😮din is the All-Father, the creator of all things. That gives him a pretty good claim, I'd say.

Those are the words of Marvel editor Tom Brevoort regarding Odin and the Phoenix. Unfortunately, Tom has been wrong in the past so i put the question forward.

Who wins in a fight between Odin and the Phoenix force in these scenarios:

1. As seen in AVX
2. Dark Phoenix, Jean Grey

He is fairly accurate with Phoenix. And went ignoramus on Odin.

If Thor can hurt the PF... 😗

Originally posted by Galan007
If Thor can hurt the PF... 😗

Then so can Odin ! 😖mart:

You see ! I'm smart too !

phoenix force

some of us have really been duped regarding thor's power vs the force

my goodness

no way in f****** hell does he stand chance vs the phoenix force

and the old guy loses here

what's next odin defeats white phoenix of the crown 👇

monday rant of the 45 year old nerd

😂

Originally posted by guy222
phoenix force

some of us have really been duped regarding thor's power vs the force

my goodness

no way in f****** hell does he stand chance vs the phoenix force

and the old guy loses here

what's next odin defeats white phoenix of the crown 👇

monday rant of the 45 year old nerd

😂

LOL

Marvel's cosmics ratings has been pretty wacky as of late.

I won't be surprised if Thor beats the Phoenix with his hammer (he has a VS comic against the Phoenix) the way things are going.. 😆

Odin 10/10. Did you see that quote in the original post? I told you people the PF wasn't Skyfather level. At best it's high Trans.

Phoenix wins.

Phoenix is slightly above the standard Galactus, who in turn is slightly above Odin.

High trans? the main reason behind allowing the Phoenix to reach Hope is to undo Wands "No More Mutants." Undoing that magical warp is clearly beyond that of a Godling in Skyfather level.

If the writer admits the Phoenix Rapture is a universal force, than its not a matter of ability, but of character flaw that allows writers to interpret random scenes/scenario.

Originally posted by zopzop
Odin 10/10. Did you see that quote in the original post? I told you people the PF wasn't Skyfather level. At best it's high Trans.

Phoenix >>>>>> Odin.

I'm sorry, but that's not open for debate.

Originally posted by Magnon
Phoenix wins.

Phoenix is slightly above the standard Galactus, who in turn is slightly above Odin.

Originally posted by "Id"
High trans? the main reason behind allowing the Phoenix to reach Hope is to undo Wands "No More Mutants." Undoing that magical warp is clearly beyond that of a Godling in Skyfather level.

If the writer admits the Phoenix Rapture is a universal force, than its not a matter of ability, but of character flaw that allows writers to interpret random scenes/scenario.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
No.

Phoenix >>>>>> Odin.

I'm sorry, but that's not open for debate.

FAN : Phoenix has been stated to have control over all matter. Odin doesn't trump that. That's just silly.

TOM BREVOORT : Odin is the All-Father, the creator of all things. That gives him a pretty good claim, I'd say.

EDIT, there's more!
FAN : "Has been so far." Why doesn't Thor just call Odin to beat Phoenix, then?

TOM BREVOORT : For one thing, Odin isn't really around or available at the moment. For another, would you call your father to fight your battles all the time?

EDIT 2 :
FAN : "Nope and nope." You think Odin's enchantment alone (nevermind Odin itself) are more powerful than the Phoenix? Really, now?

TOM BREVOORT: Has been so far.

/thread

Don't take my word for it, follow the link in the original post.

it appears Tom has been drinking water with lead in it

the phoenix should mop the floor with odin

lol if I was an editor, I'd troll fans, too.

Originally posted by Mr.SunKing
[B]it appears Tom has been drinking water with lead in it [/B]

One guy asks if Jean with the Power of the Phoenix could lift Mjolnir, he said : NO.

Mjolnir's enchantments > the FULL PF.

According to Marvel : Odin >>>>>the FULL PF>>>Thor.

Odin is a Skyfather, Thor is a high herald. Where does that leave the full PF? Trans Tier.

Originally posted by zopzop
There's more.

One guy asks if Jean with the Power of the Phoenix could lift Mjolnir, he said : NO.

Mjolnir's enchantments > the FULL PF.

According to Marvel : Odin >>>>>the FULL PF>>>Thor.

Odin is a Skyfather, Thor is a high herald. Where does that leave the full PF? Trans Tier.

Thaonos was beaten by squirrel qirl, likewise doom, i'm guessing you would rank her above those two?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
lol if I was an editor, I'd troll fans, too.

that would be the best thing ever....

Originally posted by zopzop
FAN : "Nope and nope." You think Odin's enchantment alone (nevermind Odin itself) are more powerful than the Phoenix? Really, now?

TOM BREVOORT: Has been so far.

What is this guy smoking?
Since his brain is already wasted he might as well do this: hang

Odin>Pheonix

Based on the current issues, pheonix low-mid skyfather at most.

Like people always thought he was.

Originally posted by Sundipped
What is this guy smoking?
Since his brain is already wasted he might as well do this: hang

So as of 2012 that's how Marvel sees the PF power wise. Odin > PF. It can't even overcome Odin's enchantments. So if Odin (who is a Skyfather) is at least a Tier more powerful than it (since the PF can't even overcome Odin's enchatments), yet it's strong enough to beat Thor (who is a high herald), that makes it a Trans Tier character.

Zop never fails to grasp onto some awful form of logic like cold death.

This time it's not even from comics.