Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Fair enough.In any case, bring Tom or his opinions into the forum as anything worth merit, regardless of how "right" it may seem to be or not be, doesn't do anyone any favors.
This thread was started by deathlife . He was the first one to bring in Brevoort's opinions . But , I guess if his opinions don't really matter , then its safe to say that Odin is not > Phoenix Force . Right ?
Originally posted by "Id"
My Rant of the Day.
AvX is the biggest load of shit Marvel has come up with. More so than the Onslaught Arc or Infinity Crusade.Plot
Art
Execution
CharacterThey have violated, and written down everything. The only positive to come out this arc is Uncanny X-Men, and the New Mutants/Journey Into the Mystery tie in.
I don't like how they shoehorned in an Iron Fist/Phoenix connection.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
This thread was started by deathlife . He was the first one to bring in Brevoort's opinions . But , I guess if his opinions don't really matter , then its safe to say that Odin is not > Phoenix Force . Right ?
His opinions certainly don't hold any real weight outside of the fact that he has them, but Tom thinking Odin > the PF doesn't automatically make him wrong because his opinion doesn't mean much, if anything. Feats and histories and all that other stuff come into play, too.
Personally, I think the Phoenix Force's importance/status is far greater than Odin's own, but in terms of displayed abilities, I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility for Odin to fight it and do well.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
This thread was started by deathlife . He was the first one to bring in Brevoort's opinions . But , I guess if his opinions don't really matter , then its safe to say that Odin is not > Phoenix Force . Right ?
Brevoort : Why? That's his job title.
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Originally posted by zopzop
Odin created the PF.
FAN : "Odin is the All-Father, the creator of all things." Careful there, you start sounding like a Thor fanboy soon (No offense).Brevoort : Why? That's his job title.
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If you look at the first response in this thread:
Q: Phoenix has been stated to have control over all matter. Odin doesn't trump that. That's just silly.A: Odin is the All-Father, the creator of all things. That gives him a pretty good claim, I'd say.
Sounds like to me he's countering the fan bringing up a statement on Phoenix's behalf with a statement on Odin's own.
In any case, really don't understand why people are freaking out over this. *shrug*
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
If you look at the first response in this thread:Sounds like to me he's countering the fan bringing up a statement on Phoenix's behalf with a statement on Odin's own.
In any case, really don't understand why people are freaking out over this. *shrug*
Nobody is freaking out. But when the top dog at Marvel says X is > Y, you listen because he has final say into what sees print.
Originally posted by zopzop
Odin created the PF.
FAN : "Odin is the All-Father, the creator of all things." Careful there, you start sounding like a Thor fanboy soon (No offense).Brevoort : Why? That's his job title.
/Thread
He says the same about Zeus . Anyways , that's only his opinion , and as Jake pointed out , he is prone to troll fans that get too obsessed with power levels .
Although I'll admit , if he is indeed serious with such a shit*** opinion , then I have lost all respect for Marvel's editorial staff .
Originally posted by jalek moye
Wait what?!
It's an ongoing storyline in New Avengers, where they're showing flashbacks (During the time of Leonardo da Vinci, who they ask the help of.) of Yu-Ti having visions about the Phoenix Force and a red haired girl, and than eventually discovering that girl in K'un L'un, by a citizen that had an affair on a pilgrimage to Earth. So he decides to make her the next Iron Fist.
Originally posted by zopzop
Nobody is freaking out. But when the top dog at Marvel says X is > Y, you listen because he has final say into what sees print.
Not talking about this thread, but rather the fan or fans who keep hounding him about Odin/Phoenix.
And again, while he may be the editor, his opinion doesn't sum up Marvel's stance on any given subject.
Originally posted by zopzop
Nobody is freaking out. But when the top dog at Marvel says X is > Y, you listen because he has final say into what sees print.
If you read all of my previous posts , then you'll know that Brevoort doesn't believe in ABC logic . However I can't ignore him lowballing Phoenix like that .
Originally posted by zopzop
Nobody is freaking out. But when the top dog at Marvel says X is > Y, you listen because he has final say into what sees print.
And even then it only matters about the specific stories they wrote.
In the end, even writers opinions only matter in what's allowed to see print...
Which isn't something I'm happy with, but accept. Otherwise Simon Furmans glorified fan fiction he did for a Transformers convention, which ties up loose ends at the end of his Transformers: Generation 2 run, would be canon. 😄
But I don't let canon affect my enjoyment of a story anyways. I subscribe to Alan Moore's words: "This is an imaginary story. Aren't they all?"
Originally posted by jalek moye
Bendis stupid opinion > then Brevvorts. The Writers trump the editors in terms of whose opinion matters about a character. They are the ones who make it happen, Marvel editors mostly just approve things and make sure ts marketable to random people who won't read it and like guys like Bendis do whatever the hell they want.
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Besides, if Brevoort was such an unabashed Thor/Odin fanboy and had ultimate control over power level depictions and what not, pretty sure Thor's lower end showings over the past few years wouldn't have happened.