Surfer isn't playing

Started by Nihilist7 pages

Few things.

Surfer received no upgrade in Annihilation, Galactus just stopped him being a pacifist this was confirmed by the writer.

T&A weren't M Bodies at all. They didn't get round to explaining how they returned to life...again confirmed by Abnett and lanning plus Tom B

Really? What I got from those scans (will read the full issue later) was that Ravenous and SS were fighting evenly, pound for pound, until Surfer decided to stop playing, and end things. Then Ravenous was all oh wow ur teh awsum.

If you read the exchange between G and Surfer, Norrin rejects the offer of a power increase so Galactus removes his mental blocks so to speak

Galactus offered Surfer several things: (i) will; (ii) renewed power; and (iii) no more remorse. Silver Surfer refuses the offer to take away his remorse. Galactus restores his will and his power. Which is confirmed here, "Galactus welcomes the Surfer back as his Herald, restoring his power and resolve":

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Really? What I got from those scans (will read the full issue later) was that Ravenous and SS were fighting evenly, pound for pound, until Surfer decided to stop playing, and end things. Then Ravenous was all oh wow ur teh awsum.

He killed ravenous' curr just before the planet busting.

Call it whatever you want, an upgrade, a restoration of willpower or whatever else. Whatever it was it was something different and Ravenous recognized it and the material makes it emphatically clear. THAT much is certain.

@Abhi,

Ravenous without currs was tooled by Xenith. He was trying to fight her back, he just didn't have the speed or power to do anything. Comparing that to the Surfer scenario is not accurate at all bro.

Originally posted by vince_slice

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And people say Surfer sucks H2H 😛

This is another example of Surfer when he stops holding back. He beats up Skaar and forcefully tears the Oldpower from him when he learned Skaar was going to destroy the planet.

Originally posted by Philosophía
In the real world, "DC portrays Superman as superior to J'onn because they like him more" isn't a counter argument to "Superman is superior to J'onn because DC shows it". They're the ones who created and published both of the characters, and who defined and will define their abilities and formidability, for their whole existence.

It's a butthurt rationalization that means nothing.

Except the instances where Martians are described as being more powerful than Superman?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Except the instances where Martians are described as being more powerful than Superman?
yeah but actual comic showings show Superman to be superior to Martians in spades.

Originally posted by vince_slice
This is another example of Surfer when he stops holding back. He beats up Skaar and forcefully tears the Oldpower from him when he learned Skaar was going to destroy the planet.

Looked as though Surfer was losing until he absorbed Skaar's power and channeled it to beat him down. Great showing of energy manipulation though.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Looked as though Surfer was losing until he absorbed Skaar's power and channeled it to beat him down. Great showing of energy manipulation though.

What are you talking about? Surfer never absorbed Skaar's power and used it against him. He knocked Skaar out, then sealed away his power.

Originally posted by iceman24567
yeah but actual comic showings show Superman to be superior to Martians in spades.

more feats doesn't equal more powerful icebuddy... Yes superman has been shown to outperform J'onn at times.. I'm just pointing out that Martians have been, on various occarions, been described as more powerful.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Oh, sorry.

Yeah, Lobo can stop him. Even a black hole wouldn't work, he can survive it:

Its official, Lobo goes World Breaker on him.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
more feats doesn't equal more powerful icebuddy... Yes superman has been shown to outperform J'onn at times.. I'm just pointing out that Martians have been, on various occarions, been described as more powerful.
I would say more feats and better feats. I dont see J'onn beating Darkseid or Henshaw for a majority. Supermans track record is simply better. J'onn may be more versatile but Superman is more powerful hes stronger, faster and more durable by a good margin.

everyone knows Billy is the only Supes level hero character that is consistently on his level. Everyone else has faltered and is really a full tier below him.

Majestic I guess too, but not WW or MM

I would put Orion in the class of Billy and performing at superman level or above.

Originally posted by vince_slice
What are you talking about? Surfer never absorbed Skaar's power and used it against him. He knocked Skaar out, then sealed away his power.

He took Skaar's power, beat him up then sealed it away. When he eventually beat Skaar he was glowing green with the old power, before that he was losing. It looks as though he amped from it.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
He took Skaar's power, beat him up then sealed it away. When he eventually beat Skaar he was glowing green with the old power, before that he was losing. It looks as though he amped from it.

There's nothing on panel that supports what you just said. Where does it say or show Surfer absorbing the old power? Surfer wasn't glowing green either, that's blue from his own power cosmic.

^ Could be seen both ways, I think. Either way, somehow Surfer locked the Oldpower away from Skaar.

Lol Sorrow. Typical lying Hulk fans