The way I see it, Palpatine is kinda outmatched against the trio. In a light saber duel, Dooku alone could match Palpatine. With the help of Ventress and Savage, there's no doubt that they gain the advantage. And while Palpatine has Force Abilties superior to anyone in the trio, all 3 have shown undeniably impressive Force feats that may actually allow their combined strength to overcome Palpatine in a battle of the Force.
Still, this is a close fight. There is definitely a casualty of either Ventress or Savage. Perhaps both. But in the end, the Dark Lord just can't win. The team takes it.
Too many for him to take on here.
Dooku and Opress vs Sidious would be a more even fight. Unlike Maul and Opress this duo won't be so ridiculously outmatched by Sidious's force powers. And the Lightsaber duel will be a good one, but I'd give the duo the edge.
Adding Ventress is too much Imo, unless Sidious can just snap her neck right at the start.
Palpatine wins handily.
Palpatine can take Ventress out of the fight rather quickly with the force alone, leaving Dooku and Savage. He would probably take Dooku & Savage more seriously than he did Maul & Savage, as Dooku has more offensive force powers to throw at him than Maul. Palpatine is considerably quicker, stronger (both physically and force-wise), and far more agile than both of them. I'm also assuming here that he is not holding back on killing either of them.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
The way I see it, Palpatine is kinda outmatched against the trio. In a light saber duel, Dooku alone could match Palpatine.
Have you read any of the scenes in which Dooku and Palps engage one another? Dooku knows that he is outmatched. Dooku solo could never take Sidious.
As to this situation, a three on one would be pretty difficult for anyone.
If this is an all out, I'd say Sidious takes it. Against the brothers we can see that if he had chosen to simply use the Force rather than engage them in a lightsaber duel, it would've been a very, very short fight.
Against three, Sidious probably figures he could be out-matched in the sabers department, so he most probably would use the Force against the three of them.
Originally posted by Col. Valerian
If this is an all out, I'd say Sidious takes it. Against the brothers we can see that if he had chosen to simply use the Force rather than engage them in a lightsaber duel, it would've been a very, very short fight.Against three, Sidious probably figures he could be out-matched in the sabers department, so he most probably would use the Force against the three of them.
And what you think that would be easy or something?
Dooku alone has displayed awesome telekinetic abilities.
And Opress is a physical beast so it would take a lot of thwoing and crushing before he get's take down as well.
And Ventress is... Well a third opponent. The sheer numbers will start to get to him.
Oppress and Ventress are really only useful as distractions for Dooku......
Ventress will be disabled by the Force in seconds, as per what Yoda did to her.
Oppress was tooled by Sidious (including casual dodging of his lightsaber strikes)
And Dooku can't win 1 on 1.
So, what happens? Yoda and Mace feel this absurd gathering of dark side energy, show up, and kill whoever remains.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
And what you think that would be easy or something?Dooku alone has displayed awesome telekinetic abilities.
And Opress is a physical beast so it would take a lot of thwoing and crushing before he get's take down as well.
And Ventress is... Well a third opponent. The sheer numbers will start to get to him.
Four Jedi Masters came to 'take him under arrest'. He destroys three of them with extreme ease. Despite what you continue to argue, they were no pushovers, with Fisto being able to stand one-on-one against Grievous and the rest considered 'celebrated swordsmen'. Since you still believe Sidious wasn't toying around with the brothers you obviously will never see this, even with him saying 'he did better than the Council ever did' it doesn't make it false.
Opress is nothing for Sidious' might. He would dispose of him in seconds. The same goes for Ventress. The only one who could give him a hard time is the Count. The other two pose no threat for him whatsoever.
Originally posted by Col. Valerian
Four Jedi Masters came to 'take him under arrest'. He destroys three of them with extreme ease. Despite what you continue to argue, they were no pushovers, with Fisto being able to stand one-on-one against Grievous and the rest considered 'celebrated swordsmen'.
I never said they were pushovers(though obviously they are compared to Sidious), but they're clearly no match for Opress, Maul, Kenobi.
Heck we already know that Fisto, the best of those 3, is no match for Ventress. And Opress alone has proven he can batter Ventress in Saber combat. Whilst we know both Kenobi and Maul to be considerably greater Saber combatants than Opress.
Originally posted by Col. Valerian
Since you still believe Sidious wasn't toying around with the brothers you obviously will never see this,
There's just no reason to believe that. And Zero evidence.
Originally posted by Col. Valerian
even with him saying 'he did better than the Council ever did' it doesn't make it false.
Of course it does. The statement wouldn't make any sense if Sidious held back on him.
Originally posted by Col. Valerian
Opress is nothing for Sidious' might. He would dispose of him in seconds. The same goes for Ventress. The only one who could give him a hard time is the Count. The other two pose no threat for him whatsoever.
The Count on his own has gone toe to toe with Yoda who clearly couldn't subdue him with any kind of ease.
Opress already put up a fight alongside a less powerful Sith Lord, so alongside a more powerful one as well as Ventress, I'm afraid this just becomes too much even for Sidious.
But I will give Sidious a chance if he can take out Ventress right at the start. But even then Dooku and Opress together will prove more than just a challenge.
Like you've already admitted, the Count himself can give Sidious a hard time. Having Opress there is Only going to make it more difficult for Sidious. It certainly won't make it easier.
And that's assuming he's taken Ventress out right at the start!