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This is an interesting matchup. I believe that Mace is personally above either brother individually. However, unlike with Sidious, Vaapad will not give him as much power to combat the brothers.
He also has only one lightsaber and does not possess Sidious's acrobatics, making it more difficult for him to fight the brothers head on. Could go either way I suppose.
If this is Clone Wars Mace or RotS Mace, then he destroys both brothers, even quicker than Sidious did.
As Dark siders, the brothers won't be magically immune to Vapaad where Sidious wasn't; and the bleed-off from their power would power Mace sufficiently through the duel.
With speed that edged out Sidious' own and the knowledge and understanding of Shatterpoints, he would also kill the brothers much quicklier than Sidious did.
Add to the fact that whereas Sidious was playing with both brothers, the way a cat toys with mice - Mace would want to dispatch them as soon as possible, and would power and cut through them with his superior speed and skill, taking them both down in under a minute.
Originally posted by Vensai
This is an interesting matchup. I believe that Mace is personally above either brother individually. However, unlike with Sidious, Vaapad will not give him as much power to combat the brothers.He also has only one lightsaber and does not possess Sidious's acrobatics, making it more difficult for him to fight the brothers head on. Could go either way I suppose.
Originally posted by Nephthys
If Obi-Wan can beat both brothers, Mace Windu definitely can.
If he has a second Lightsaber and assuming his Jar Kai skills are as impressive as Obi-Wan's and Sidious's(good chance) then yeah he definitely can.
But realistically it's more likely Maul will be the only one going Jar Kai.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Then there's no point bringing up Obi-Wan's dual saber performance.Dooku's fight would be the better example to use who according to the official site "barely" had the edge over Ventress and Opress.
I don't think a second lightsaber is needed either, Mace could keep Savage at bay with his lightsaber skills and Maul at bay with his force powers.
But a second lightsaber would help Mace, ALOT!
You people are forgetting that with his effective use of Vaapad and Shatterpoint he actually beat Sidious, a much, much more powerful opponent.
Mace, by using these two powerful and unique abilities managed to defeat someone who is his superior in both skill with a lightsaber and Force power. These two brothers are below Mace in both categories. There's nothing to suggest he wouldn't he able to take this.
Originally posted by Col. Valerian
You people are forgetting that with his effective use of Vaapad and Shatterpoint he actually beat Sidious, a much, much more powerful opponent.
Mace, by using these two powerful and unique abilities managed to defeat someone who is his superior in both skill with a lightsaber and Force power. These two brothers are below Mace in both categories. There's nothing to suggest he wouldn't he able to take this.
Has Vaapad ever been shown to give a powerboost with two opponents? If so then yeah Mace dominates, if not this is a bit closer than you may think. I think Mace'll still win, but it will by no means be a stomp.
This is where A>B>C doesn't quite work and why it was essential to seperate Sidious vs the Brothers fight into the categories of Sabers, Force and All-Out.
Despite what Sidious did to them, both the Zabraks are actually powerful with force tk. Clearly neither of them are on Mace's level, but I highly doubt Mace will be rag dolling them around the way Sidious was. (Anyone's welcome to make the case that he would but I'm just not seeing it).
So it's really going to come down to Sabers. Imo Maul is tough enough on his own in that department. He held his own against Sidious (I know some people think Sidious was holding back blah blah).
But against Both of them, and Mace only using a single Saber? No I personally just don't see him winning at all.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
This is where A>B>C doesn't quite work and why it was essential to seperate Sidious vs the Brothers fight into the categories of Sabers, Force and All-Out.Despite what Sidious did to them, both the Zabraks are actually powerful with force tk. Clearly neither of them are on Mace's level, but I highly doubt Mace will be rag dolling them around the way Sidious was. (Anyone's welcome to make the case that he would but I'm just not seeing it).
So it's really going to come down to Sabers. Imo Maul is tough enough on his own in that department. He held his own against Sidious (I know some people think Sidious was holding back blah blah).
But against Both of them, and Mace only using a single Saber? No I personally just don't see him winning at all.
He doesn't need to ragdoll them. All he has to do is push one of them away (likely Maul) and then overpower Savage. I think Mace can take down Savage in a good amount of time. And also keep in mind, Mace's swordsmanship is on the level of Tyranus. The same Tyranus who was able to off Kenobi in the midst of dueling skywalker.
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
He doesn't need to ragdoll them. All he has to do is push one of them away (likely Maul) and then overpower Savage. I think Mace can take down Savage in a good amount of time. And also keep in mind, Mace's swordsmanship is on the level of Tyranus. The same Tyranus who was able to off Kenobi in the midst of dueling skywalker.
True but remember Dooku did struggle against Ventress and Opress. Maul is far greater than either one of them Imo.
And Kenobi seems to have weaker force defenses than the Zabrak brothers. Neither of them will go down that easily.
But yeah I can see Mace force slam either one individually. But would be pretty difficult when they're both all over him in Sabers Imho.