Sadako of Girth
Extreme Mode
Originally posted by The Fat Rambo
OK, you wanna play that game? McClane would be dead without Al, Marv, Zeus, Farrell, Wizard, hell, even Farrell's Terminator action figure.
Al: Assumption. Karl could have missed from that range, the bullet might have been as effective in killing McClane as all the others: IE totally ineffective.
Marv: He'd have not gotten directions. Boohoo some more..
Zeus: Zeus intervened the once in Harlem, but McClane saved his ass all through the picture.
Farrell: would have died and McClane would have gotten the day off
Wizard: Gave directions but without Farrell, McClane would have had to have been there, and Wizard never saved his life.
Therefore you speak from butthurt.
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Now lets look at Indy, shall we?
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Raiders:
"Chuck! Start the engines!!!" - And he did, starting the plane and saving Indy from certain blowdarty death by the Hovitos tribesmen.
Marion saves Indy from certain death when a nepalese thug had Indy nailed at point blank with a gun and was just about to pull the trigger when Marion saved him...
She later saved him again when he was being whupped by a big boxer german, when an truck load of Nazis were closing in on their truck for the kill by machine gunning them with the flying wing's turret.
She also provided the medallion which enabled Indy to find the Ark.
The little kids in the bar saved Indy from Machine gun toting thugs ready to kill Indy for Belloch.
Little Nazi monkey dies from poisoned date, alerting Sallah to the danger, making him grab the Date Indy was about to eat, unaware of the poison, saving Indy again.
The boat captain: Katanga. Lies to the Germans at great personal risk to save Jones on the boat when they are searching for him.
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Temple of Doom:
Willie Scott's picking up the Antidote and saving it by stashing it down her top enabled Indy to drink the Antidote and save him from certain organ failure and death..
The spike chamber. Indy would have been jellied and stabbed with foot long spikes when the ceiling was coming down on Indy and Short round. It was Willie's intervention that saved Indy and Short Round.
She also punched out that goon on the cart chase that was threatening to kill them all by punching him off of the back derailing the pursuing cart behind them.
Short Round also saved Indy by being his getaway driver.
And by fighting the Maharaja whom was about to get Indy killed by voodoo doll paralysis whilst being about to be crushed by the massive goon, and/or the rock crusher.
And also by freeing Jones from the black sleep of Khali by waking him up with fire by jabbing him with the torch.
Short round assisted him constantly.
Helping freeing the slaves, which occupied the guards allowing Indy to not get swarmed by them in his escape.
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Last Crusade:
Henry Snr saves him with his knowledge of the grail, the 3 tests included at the end, the numerous clues and information from the diary..
By finding the way out of the Grunwald castle when Indy was stumped.
By fighting off that fighter by scaring the birds with the umbrella into flying into the fighter's propellor, crashing it..
By taking part in the battle inside the tank that was pursuing Indy, stopping him from getting blown up and crushed at a vital moment too.
Elsa also saved his life in Germany by not screaming and alerting Hitler and the boys to their presence.
And by leading Donavan to the false grail highlighting to indy that the shiniest 'cup of kings' was not the correct choice.
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There are loads more in Indy IV ranging from Fridges saving indy, to Mac helping him, to Marion and his son helping, from John Hurt's character going and getting the Russians to save him from sinking in quicksand, the list goes on....
Thusly, McClane is WAY less reliant and pretty much saves his own life (certainly by comparison) all through the movies, and is pretty much shown to be indestructible as far as his enemies efforts and by his own actions, anyway.
Therefore McClane wins.
You mad?
Yeah. You're mad.
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