Vitiate vs ROTS Sidious

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Vitiate vs ROTS Sidious

Sidious's feats (at this point):

-Defeated Yoda
-Defeated Mace Windu
-Assassinated Darth Plagues
-Simultaneously defeated Maul and Savage Opress
-Masked his dark nature from the Jedi Council for years

Vitiate's feats:

-Ripped the Force from Nathemia (Through ritual)
-Dominated the minds of 100's of Sith Lords
-Defeated Revan with some difficulties
-Stalemated the Hero of Tython
-Achieved immortality

I think I'm going to vote for Sidious here...

Been done before. 😬

Sidious wins

excellent

So have a lot of topics, I'd bet. Consider this a bump, then.

Sidious wins

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Sidious wins

I would say Sidious with a lightsaber and Vitiate with the Force. Imo it depends upon where they are and how far apart they start.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I would say Sidious with a lightsaber and Vitiate with the Force. Imo it depends upon where they are and how far apart they start.

mmm

I agree with Nephthys.

Originally posted by axel_jovan
mmm

Dude overpowered 4 of the strongest Jedi in the galaxy in the Force at the same time and his lightning was described as 'infinitely more powerful' than Nyriss' lightning which was enough to tear through force shields and still have the power to disintegrate a being. His TK disintegrated a droid with a wave of his hand and destroyed a massive temple even while dying. He also has extremely powerful telepathy capable of enslaving his opponents.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Dude overpowered 4 of the strongest Jedi in the galaxy in the Force at the same time

Strongest sans Satele 😛 Other than that, good point, but not conclusive at all, given how Sidious Force-raped Maul and Savage...
and his lightning was described as 'infinitely more powerful' than Nyriss' lightning which was enough to tear through force shields and still have the power to disintegrate a being.

"infinitelly more powerful” = flashy description of “more powerful”

It can be argued that Sidious’s lightning is also more powerful, for it disintegrates beings, and knocked the most powerful Jedi up to PT unconscious.

In contrast, Vitiate’s lightning gave Revan some trouble, and that is because he was retarded enough to try to block it bare-handed..

His TK disintegrated a droid with a wave of his hand

Sidious Force-raped two beings, whose Force showings are nothing short of beastly and, it can be argued, might even rival Revan’s TK. (btw what are Revan's TK feats??)
and destroyed a massive temple even while dying.

Seconds after he lost to a Jedi less powerful than Yoda…also, Sidious’s death onboard Death Star created a DS nexus in space.
He also has extremely powerful telepathy capable of enslaving his opponents.

Which, as pointed out astutely in another thread, it is not applicable in combat (or at least it is highly speculative if Vitiate can us it effectively in a combat scenario against top-tier Force users)

Regardless, Vitiate will not be mentally dominating Sidious, a Sith Lord whose will is strong enough to challenge and win against the Force itself.

Two more things to consider:

First, all of the aforementioned Force-powers Vitiate demonstrated were displayed on a world strong with a Dark-Side—Dromund Kass is a Dark Side nexus, therefore anywhere else Vitiate will be less impressive.

Second, in a combat situation Vitiate demonstrated startling lack of mobility/speed. On the other hand, Sidious seems to be virtually peerless when it comes to combat speed.

Thus, Sidious holds an advantage and he wins this duel.

Man, I am just like, so not arguing this again.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Man, I am just like, so not arguing this again.

concession accepted 😎

still luv u 😛

I am pleased that my teachings have cultivated a promising new generation. It is your task to receive the torch I pass and defend the Dark Lord against all foes, foreign and domestic.

Originally posted by axel_jovan
Strongest sans Satele 😛 Other than that, good point, but not conclusive at all, given how Sidious Force-raped Maul and Savage...

Sidious Force-raped two beings, whose Force showings are nothing short of beastly

👆

Easily up there with greatest force feats.

These were not just "celebrated swordsmen," or "4 of the best Jedi." They have actual and impressive force feats.

They have individually dominated Council Members with their TK. They've moved Jedi Crafts with ease. And they've put down several Destroyer Droids with one blast.

Sidious gets mind raped.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
👆

Easily up there with greatest force feats.

These were not just "celebrated swordsmen," or "4 of the best Jedi." They have actual and impressive force feats.

They have individually dominated Council Members with their TK. They've moved Jedi Crafts with ease. And they've put down several Destroyer Droids with one blast.

Last time I checked, 4 is twice as much as 2.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
I am pleased that my teachings have cultivated a promising new generation. It is your task to receive the torch I pass and defend the Dark Lord against all foes, foreign and domestic.

I am not worthy... 😮

😛

Originally posted by Nephthys
Last time I checked, 4 is twice as much as 2.

Better analogy would be: three 2s and one 6 beat two 4s

Originally posted by Nephthys
Dude overpowered 4 of the strongest Jedi in the galaxy in the Force at the same time and his lightning was described as 'infinitely more powerful' than Nyriss' lightning which was enough to tear through force shields and still have the power to disintegrate a being. His TK disintegrated a droid with a wave of his hand and destroyed a massive temple even while dying. He also has extremely powerful telepathy capable of enslaving his opponents.

Overpowering 4 Jedi, two who are featless does not ~ Sidious' feats.