Originally posted by AuraAngel
Whether they were impressive or not is irrelevant. The point is that they exist. Which cannot be said for Hinata.She hit a distracted opponent. Coward. uhuh
Weak showings don't make you automatically better than someone without them imo. The only props I give Sakura are her genius like medical skills, and her great chakra control. But, that's just me.
That's pretty much all of Ino's showings lol
Originally posted by Demonic PhoenixThe Hyuuga clan's gentle fist style attacks the chakra network, so Hinata could attack the chakra core and biological heart of Sasori's puppet body to beat him.
Do I really have to spell it out for you?i) Small amounts of Kurama's chakra spills out and combines with Naruto's chakra. This means that Naruto's own base chakra levels increase over time.
ii) The amount of Kurama's chakra that can mix with Naruto's chakra keeps increasing with each year.
iii) At that point in time, Naruto had had Kurama for 12 years. Meaning that for 12 years, Naruto's regular chakra levels were slowly increasing.
iv) [b]"Naruto's chakra", which is what Kakashi was referring to, is really a mixture of his regular chakra and some of Kurama's.Sakura only needed Chiyo's help in dodging Sasori's attacks for the first bit of the fight. She learned how to predict his attacks and evade accordingly.
Not really. Hinata has no way to get past Sasori's armored puppet, and she does not have the reflexes, the agility, the intelligence & the observation that Sakura has. [/B]
Originally posted by KAIKAGE
The Hyuuga clan's gentle fist style attacks the chakra network, so Hinata could attack the chakra core and biological heart of Sasori's puppet body to beat him.
She still has no answer to the 3rd Kazekage puppet. And I doubt Sasori would let her tag him in his puppet body. Then there's the issue of the 100 puppets in which she hasn't shown anything impressive enough the would lead me to believe that she could've done better than Sakura in that fight.
Originally posted by KAIKAGE
The Hyuuga clan's gentle fist style attacks the chakra network, so Hinata could attack the chakra core and biological heart of Sasori's puppet body to beat him.
Sure, she could hit Sasori's heart to beat him.
Now, please explain how she would destroy Hiruko, the puppet Sasori is usually in, and how she would get close to Sasori's puppet body whilst avoiding the attacks of the myriad of offensive puppets that Sasori has.
If I were to use your argumentative style, I could easily say that Hinata could beat Hashirama, or current Naruto. She could just hit them with Gentle Fist to beat them.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Sure, she could hit Sasori's heart to beat him.Now, please explain how she would destroy Hiruko, the puppet Sasori is usually in, and how she would get close to Sasori's puppet body whilst avoiding the attacks of the myriad of offensive puppets that Sasori has.
If I were to use your argumentative style, I could easily say that Hinata could beat Hashirama, or current Naruto. She could just hit them with Gentle Fist to beat them.
The same way Sakura did, with help from Chiyo. lol
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakkaYour forgetting her signature move the 8 trigrams 64 and 128 palms guard which works well when she's fighting a high number of opponents, also she has the twin lion palm technique that she used to break pain's chakra disruption blades and to fight pain.
She still has no answer to the 3rd Kazekage puppet. And I doubt Sasori would let her tag him in his puppet body. Then there's the issue of the 100 puppets in which she hasn't shown anything impressive enough the would lead me to believe that she could've done better than Sakura in that fight.
Originally posted by socool8520
The same way Sakura did, with help from Chiyo. lol
So, Hinata would do this? lol
Originally posted by AuraAngel
You don't seem to get it. DP is saying that Hinata lacks the power to break Hiruko, which is a substantial claim given her lack of feats. If Sasori is to be removed from Hiruko, it would be up to Chiyo to do so entirely on her own as Hinata can't rightfully do anything to help.
Yeah, and Chiyo stated that she could not get past Hiruko by herself. Which is why Sakura's strength was needed.
Originally posted by socool8520
^ She does have chakra infused attacks so, yes, I could see her smashing a puppet with those lion fist things or something similar.So what, Chiyo was old. Of course she couldn't do it herself.
Okay, you could see her doing something similar to Sakura. I don't. Now you have to prove her chakra infused attacks could smash through Hiruko.
IMHO, Naruto could be (keyword: COULD) as strong as Jiraiya in adulthood.
Probably even stronger, 'cause of his determination and 'Uzumaki bloodline' guts.
His chakra reserves would be much, much lower though.
The Kyuubi grants him almost unlimited amounts of chakra, like the Potara Earrings in Dragonball.
He'd lose against Orochimaru-level and higher tier opponents.
How do you know his chakra reserves would be lower? He's an Uzamaki, meaning he would through blood, have high chakra reserves. He had enough chakra to master, well hell, be able to obtain sage mode. Something Oro couldn't do.
Besides, he defeated the third Raikage with sage mode and nearly defeated Pain with just sage mode. Both of those people would shit stomp Oro.
Originally posted by socool8520
How do you know his chakra reserves would be lower? He's an Uzamaki, meaning he would through blood, have high chakra reserves. He had enough chakra to master, well hell, be able to obtain sage mode. Something Oro couldn't do.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
i) Small amounts of Kurama's chakra spills out and combines with Naruto's chakra. This means that Naruto's own base chakra levels increase over time.
ii) The amount of Kurama's chakra that can mix with Naruto's chakra keeps increasing with each year.
iii) At that point in time, Naruto had had Kurama for 12 years. Meaning that for 12 years, Naruto's regular chakra levels were slowly increasing.
iv) [b]"Naruto's chakra", which is what Kakashi was referring to, is really a mixture of his regular chakra and some of Kurama's.
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Originally posted by socool8520
Besides, he defeated the third Raikage with sage mode and nearly defeated Pain with just sage mode. Both of those people would shit stomp Oro.
He didn't overpower the Third Raikage with Sage Mode. He just used its sensory perception that borders on precog.
Also, Naruto never "nearly defeated Pain with just Sage Mode". Naruto had help, prior knowledge of the Path's abilities, and most importantly, Deva Path was powerless while Naruto was smacking around the other Paths. Deva Path proceeded to quickly incapacitate Naruto once his power had returned. But this is a tangent.
Originally posted by socool8520
Obviously, I can't considering she hasn't had the panel time that Sakura has had. I still think she could though.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
He's read the manga and probably my posts as well.He didn't overpower the Third Raikage with Sage Mode. He just used its sensory perception that borders on precog.
Also, Naruto never "nearly defeated Pain with just Sage Mode". Naruto had help, prior knowledge of the Path's abilities, and most importantly, Deva Path was powerless while Naruto was smacking around the other Paths. Deva Path proceeded to quickly incapacitate Naruto once his power had returned. But this is a tangent.I could say I think Mito could wtfpwn Minato. Doesn't mean that she would, and since she does not have the feats to suggest that she could wtfpwn Minato, I'd be wrong.
You're not the sole authority on what's correct so who cares. lol
Nothing states his chakra reserves are low or would be much lower than Jiraya's as Asbestos believes.
Doesn't matter if he overpowered him, he beat him plain and simple. He destroyed most of the paths of pain. That much he could have done on his own.
You could say that, and without us knowing Mito's full capabilities, I couldn't tell you that you're wrong. Besides I never said Hinata would wtf pwn Sakura, just that I think she could beat her.