ROTS Mace Windu Vs AOTC/ROTS Count Dooku

Started by Mizukage Yoda35 pages

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Would you like my rebuttal to be "civil" or not? Because it will be a mutual undertaking.

Are you even capable of being civil Tempest?

Also...I really couldn't resist posting this image.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda

Also considering your argument that Mace>Dooku has become stringent on a quote from ROTS that states that 3 Magnaguards>Kenobi. I'd go ahead and say you lost this one.

Funny thing is that's not even what the quote meant:

but it was not Obi-Wan who would defeat them; Obi-Wan wasn't even fighting. He was only a vessel, emptied of self. The Force, shaped by his skill and guided by his clarity of mind, fought through him.

So yeah Obi-Wan Without Using The Force isn't capable of defeating 3 Magnaguards.

And Dooku leapt away to let the magnaguards attack Mace and Kenobi. He didn't fight alongside them (as far as we know). The game implies he only fought after the magnaguards were destroyed.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Funny thing is that's not even what the quote meant:

but it was not Obi-Wan who would defeat them; Obi-Wan wasn't even fighting. He was only a vessel, emptied of self. The Force, shaped by his skill and guided by his clarity of mind, fought through him.

So yeah Obi-Wan Without Using The Force isn't capable of defeating 3 Magnaguards.

And Dooku leapt away to let the magnaguards attack Mace and Kenobi. He didn't fight alongside them (as far as we know). The game implies he only fought after the magnaguards were destroyed.

So Tempest misinterpreted the quote? That's hilariously fantastic. 😆

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Are you even capable of being civil Tempest?

About as capable as you are of formulating a sensible argument. How about you answer the question so we can hurry this thing along?

Originally posted by The_Tempest
About as capable as you are of formulating a sensible argument. How about you answer the question so we can hurry this thing along?

You're already not being civil you c u n t.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
You're already not being civil you c u n t.

Because you haven't supplied an answer yet and prefer to respond with backhanded insults of your own.

You're either wanting to delay my rebuttal or hope that I'll be nicer to you than you're being to me.

I'm a proponent of equality. So pick: would you like this conversation to be civil or shall we continue as is?

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Because you haven't supplied an answer yet and prefer to respond with backhanded insults of your own.

You're either wanting to delay my rebuttal or hope that I'll be nicer to you than you're being to me.

I'm a proponent of equality. So pick: would you like this conversation to be civil or shall we continue as is?

Equality? I've at worst made a few harmless prods at your intelligence. You on the other hand have called me a liar. Use underhanded tricks in order to gain any delusion of an advantage you could scrape up, and now you offer me an olive branch without so much as admitting you were wrong an offering an apology.

Clearly your ability to comprehend basic vocabulary is on par with your shoddy argumentative skills.

That's not an answer.

You've been b1tching and whining ad nauseam about civility. If you want it, you'll get it, but it'll be a mutual undertaking.

But I'm sure as hell not going to treat you delicately when you continue to lob the same shit in my direction.

So pick.

Originally posted by §hroud
And when Dooku had his "titanic struggle" with Yoda in DR - he was on a Dark side Force Nexus, Idiot.

This quote was about Yoda vs Dooku in AOTC.

Originally posted by §hroud
It is clear that up until a certain point in the War, Windu and Dooku were equals - and later at some point, Windu surpassed Dooku in nearly all respects.

prove it -.-

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Equality? I've at worst made a few harmless prods at your intelligence.

Not to jump in or anything, but this is the kind of attitude that I hate with a passion.

It's like slapping someone and then he beats the shit out of you, and then you complain about it saying: "well I only slapped him, he didn't have to bust my head open."

Once you start something, then be prepared for it. And after it's started, you can't complain about being on the worse end of it.

This is not just directed at you. It's to anyone here with that same attitude, and there are a few.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Not to jump in or anything, but this is the kind of attitude that I hate with a passion.

You are jumping in. If you have something to say then say it. It's that sort of thing that I hate with a passion.


It's like slapping someone and then he beats the shit out of you, and then you complain about it saying: "well I only slapped him, he didn't have to bust my head open."

No it isn't. It's like boxing with someone and then them punching you in the nuts.


Once you start something, then be prepared for it. And after it's started, you can't complain about being on the worse end of it.

Look, I appreciate what you are trying to do here, but please don't get involved.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
That's not an answer.

You've been b1tching and whining ad nauseam about civility. If you want it, you'll get it, but it'll be a mutual undertaking.

But I'm sure as hell not going to treat you delicately when you continue to lob the same shit in my direction.

So pick.

In close to 5 years of posting here I've never had the incentive to put someone on my ignore list until today. Congratulations Tempest. You've earned it.

May you someday change my mind and be removed from it.

That works, too. 👆

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
You are jumping in. If you have something to say then say it. It's that sort of thing that I hate with a passion.

No it isn't. It's like boxing with someone and then them punching you in the nuts.

Look, I appreciate what you are trying to do here, but please don't get involved.

Don't worry about him. They have an agreement where they jump to each other's rescue.

And trust me S66 is really not one to talk on the subject. He's himself done precisely what he's claiming he hates here.

Going through all the evidence accumulated in this topic, I say all evidence points to Dooku and Windu being equals, with a 61/100 advantage to Dooku since he has a recorded win against Windu.

That erroneously assumes the existence of a trend.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
That erroneously assumes the existence of a trend.

Seriously, I see both sides as evenly matched based on arguments. I'd make it 50/50 if Dooku didn't in canon beat Windu in sparring and went up against both him and Kenobi at once during the CW.