Kit Fisto vs Shaak Ti

Started by Jedi Mom7 pages

You make good points in this case Galan007. 👆

I do see OCW Grievous=CW Grievous now actually.

w00t

Hopefully I can stand with this point of view now. It is one thing I have always been confused about.

Just remember, the Jedi team Grievous beat in the cartoon were:
a.) Primarily no-name fodder.
and
b.) Per Mundi, were "exhausted"(thanks to DP for reminding me of that.)

In fact, cartoon Grievous never really beat any Jedi of note, without fairly extreme situational circumstances aiding him.

CG Grievous, on the other hand, has consistently shown that he is skillful enough to contend with nearly any noteworthy Jedi in sabers.

Still, Grievous gave a really good fight to Windu in LoE. And I still can't wrap my head around how Fisto>five exhausted Jedi, two of them Mundi/Ti.

Originally posted by Jedi Mom
And I still can't wrap my head around how Fisto>five exhausted Jedi, two of them Mundi/Ti.
Fodder Jedi are completely inconsequential. Mundi and Shaak Ti are also inconsequential, given that they were "exhausted" at the time. Go run 10 miles, then try to beat your best 40 yard dash time immediately afterward. Ain't gonna happen.

Even when she was fresh, Shaak Ti was hard-pressed to defeat a single Magnaguard during Grievous' siege on Courscant. That alone should tell you where she stands in comparison to the General himself.

"Do I need to demonstrate what responses you can expect from Shaak Ti or Obi-Wan Kenobi? From Mace Windu or, stars help you, Yoda?"

Cool comment.

We still saw one Magnaguard give her hell.

Cool comment.

The quote still stands.

Feats trump statements. That said, we've seen where Shaak Ti's skills stand. One Magnaguard gave her hell. Granted, that Magnaguard was obviously of a higher level than most, but still, it was one Magnaguard.

Here's how I see it: Fisto ≈ Grievous >> one Magnaguard ≈ Shaak Ti.

Can you link me to the video where she fights this Magnaguard? Don't think I've seen it.

Originally posted by Jedi Mom
Can you link me to the video where she fights this Magnaguard? Don't think I've seen it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64-3talVkUA
Starts at 5:07.

Thanks.

That's why I'd rather use the quote. It specifically states she's on Grievous' level if not above. It's likely she had a harder time with the Magnaguard on the train just as Windu had a hard time with Grievous on the train. When she fought the Magnaguard on the ground she destroyed it pretty quickly.

Originally posted by Galan007
Feats trump statements. That said, we've seen where Shaak Ti's skills stand. One Magnaguard gave her hell. Granted, that Magnaguard was obviously of a higher level than most, but still, it was one Magnaguard.

Here's how I see it: Fisto ≈ Grievous >> one Magnaguard ≈ Shaak Ti.

Very astute.

The only problem with your deduction, is that this thread implies both Jedi in their peak forms - and CW Shaak Ti is not her peak form.

The Shaak Ti that gave Galen "Force Titan" Marek hell, is her peak form.

Unless that game is no longer Canon, I'm surprised no one has thought to bring it up - then again, with how little most people seem to think in this place, perhaps I shouldn't be surprised. 😛

Peak-Fisto was destroyed by Sidious in 10 seconds - even with the help of Mace Windu.

Shaak Ti by comparison, gave a much better fight to an opponent who is arguably close to ROTS Palpatine in most respects.

Indeed, if this were CW Shaak Ti versus Kit - Kit would take her down quickly.

But it's not.

This is "Zip-around like lightning - *****-smack Starkiller" Shaak Ti.

And against her, Kit himself would go down - after a very intense fight.

Shaak Ti is victorious, here.

Originally posted by §|gn
Very astute.

The only problem with your deduction, is that this thread implies both Jedi in their peak forms - and CW Shaak Ti is not her peak form.

Where was it implied that this is Felucia Shaak Ti?

Anyway, if that was the intent of the thread starter(you'd think he would've specified that by now), then Shaak Ti obviously wins. RotS-Era Shaak Ti loses, though.

Originally posted by Jedi Mom
It's likely she had a harder time with the Magnaguard on the train just as Windu had a hard time with Grievous on the train.
This wasn't implied at all.

She had a hard time with that Magnaguard, because that Mangaguard's skill-level was roughly equal to hers.

Originally posted by Galan007
Where was it implied that this is Felucia Shaak Ti?

Anyway, if that was the intent of the thread starter(you'd think he would've specified that by now), then Shaak Ti obviously wins. RotS-Era Shaak Ti looses, though.

Where was it implied that she wasn't?

By rules, if no particular variation of the character is specified, then it is assumed the character is in her Peak-incarnation. 😮‍💨

And of course she owns Kit here.

Cool. If the thread starter doesn't declare otherwise, then I have to agree.

Originally posted by Galan007
Cool. If the thread starter doesn't declare otherwise, then I have to agree.

According to his Opening Post, he didn't. So you do agree. 😮‍💨

Originally posted by Galan007
This wasn't implied at all.

She had a hard time with that Magnaguard, because that Mangaguard's skill-level was roughly equal to hers.


Take it how you want to. I go by the quote.