Originally posted by DarkSaint85LT would have a chance, but only because Superman's "bench pressing the Earth for 5days" wouldn't count since technically speaking it wasn't a bench press exercise. It all depends on how you word the thread.My next thread, Living Tribunal vs Superman benchpressing thread 😈 [/B]
Originally posted by carver9
Just want to throw out there that you are on ignore ABHI...per Pr request. I have a feeling you are replying to my comment. Let Rao handle this.
So you put everyone on ignore who you can't convert and who uses logic when sifting through your Hulk exaggerations? What a little titbaby, lol. I will never put someone on ignore for disagreeing with me.
DD wins btw.
...smdh carver
Originally posted by jaxthejester
Wow. Voting is tied 50/50.I would say that this is about as close to a Draw as you can get.
Doomsday is DC's version of Hulk.
'Nuff said? 😎
Both can adapt, both have super speed, both jump great heights, they even added 'madder he gets the stronger he gets' to Doomsday. I don't know if it's on the level of Hulk but it's there. Doomsday is a replica of Savage Hulk, he is a lil lamer though.
Originally posted by Brockalizer
Nice try, but crossovers are non cannon so they don't count. Besides like I've said before this is a DOOMSDAY VS HULK thread, not HULK VS SUPERMAN. Just because Superman can do something does mean that Doomsday can also do it by default. Using your logic a Kryptonite hollow point to the skull would kill Doomsday, since it would kill Superman.The OP, specifically said feats. As in Doomsday and Hulk feats. It's not like Doomsday is a new character that has only been around for less than a year. The Doomsday character has been around for over 20 years, HP Doomsday for almost 20 years. He does have independent feats, Doomsday Year 1 for example. Nothing in that suggested that Doomsday would be significantly faster or more powerful than Hulk. If after 20 years Doomsday still doesn't have enough of his own feats to win a battle based on feats then Hulk wins by default.
Haha, what? HP doomsday was a specific version of character who appeared in only 7 issues and was killed after that and replaced by other version of character.
Originally posted by abhilegendIt isn't canon though. You also ignore certain writers intent while championing specific parts advantageous to your agenda.
Writer's intent bro. Writer's intent was that Superman can withstand adamantium cutting lasers. And anything Superman can do in durability, Doomsday can definitely do it since he is far more durable than Superman.Haha, what? HP doomsday was a specific version of character who appeared in only 7 issues and was killed after that and replaced by other version of character.
Hp Doomsday lacks the Hulk's feats and portrayal. We also know the writer of Hp specifically addressed Doomsday's power level which is roughly on par with a different Superman at 95 percent power level.
Originally posted by DTMBy the same writer Darkseid isn't that powerful it is his mind which makes him dangerous. The writer believes Doomsday beats him ten out of ten unless Darkseid can take countermeasures but it doesn't matter as he doesn't have a high opinion of Darkseid's physicality.
So is this basically HP Doomsday vs. The Hulk? If so, DD takes it much more than not. I dont see Hulk taking on Superman, Orion and Jonn together, or slaughtering Darkseid (Both feats with ease), HP DD has done so. HP DD is everything Hulk is, and More.
Hulks greatest portrayal ala Heart of the Monster would pulverize Doomsday.
Hulk recent fts poops on Doomsday fts and yes, Doomsday took out Darkseid but Hulk matched a full powered Onslaught...my bad, he overpowered a fully developed Onslaught; punched his physical shell to dust. They were punching each other so hard that the shockwaves from their punches was pushing the hero's back.
Originally posted by DTM
So is this the strongest version of Hulk vs. HP Doomsday, or just standard Hulk vs DD?
no i don't think that is what the thread is getting at at all. i THINK it's more along the lines of where each could be taken ultimately. there is no reason to speculate that the hp version of dd was the finished version, that he simply couldn't have continued to evolve well beyond what we saw. i think it's simple--when the characters were written, who was intended to be the more powerful. could wbh beat dd? maybe. but that isn't the question being addressed in this thread. the question is, if both were taken as far as you believe they could go, who would ultimately be the more powerful, not who had the single greatest portrayal of power on paper. do you really think the creators of hunter/prey intended for it to be possible for one single hero to defeat him, even the company's most powerful? do you think the writers of the hotm arc really intended to display hulk as the single most powerful hero, maybe ever, in marvel? based on your answers to those questions, you'll have your answer to this thread.
Originally posted by -Pr-
in a comic, Hulk would generally be written to win more often than not.
while i'd agree with your initial statement, i'd disagree with the above statement 100%. to suggest otherwise would be akin to dd running a train on the avengers only to have hulk come in and save the day by doing what all of them combined--and in the case of hp dd, that included superman, waverider and darkseid--couldn't do. marvel would never let a guy wreck all the avengers, including thor and perhaps even surfer to keep the hp/dd analogy in check--only to have him lose single-handedly to the hulk, wbh or not. and that is the reason why i believe that based on the intent of the characters, dd would take this every time.
Originally posted by leonidas
while i'd agree with your initial statement, i'd disagree with the above statement 100%. to suggest otherwise would be akin to dd running a train on the avengers only to have hulk come in and save the day by doing what all of them combined--and in the case of hp dd, that included superman, waverider and darkseid--couldn't do. marvel would never let a guy wreck all the avengers, including thor and perhaps even surfer to keep the hp/dd analogy in check--only to have him lose single-handedly to the hulk, wbh or not. and that is the reason why i believe that based on the intent of the characters, dd would take this every time.
But Hulk has single handedly ripped through a enemy that the entire planet couldn't stop.
Originally posted by leonidas
while i'd agree with your initial statement, i'd disagree with the above statement 100%. to suggest otherwise would be akin to dd running a train on the avengers only to have hulk come in and save the day by doing what all of them combined--and in the case of hp dd, that included superman, waverider and darkseid--couldn't do. marvel would never let a guy wreck all the avengers, including thor and perhaps even surfer to keep the hp/dd analogy in check--only to have him lose single-handedly to the hulk, wbh or not. and that is the reason why i believe that based on the intent of the characters, dd would take this every time.
I thought we were talking about a straight fight, here?
In terms of general portrayals doomsday was seemingly a level above. But if we get into Pak hulk and the writer intent regarding that? Then doomsday would get absolutely annihilated. Pak wrote a hulk that was specifically meant to be exponentially more powerful than hulk ha ever been in the past....and then said that that version of hulk ( pre HOTM Worldbreaker) was holding back. Simplistic and downright retarded downplaying of that writer intent which focus on the fact that WBhulk destroyed a planet and then compare it to other cases of planetary destruction while ignoring the fact that the nature of the planetary destruction ( as well as other aspects) is what makes the feat exponentially more impressive...shows the level of willful ignorance and recalcitrance some people are willing to demonstrate in order to still preserve their idea of what hulk "should be".
Fact is I doubt any writer would have any doomsday come in and out brawl WBH as Pak intended him....just not even close.