Who said they equalize in power when arriving in fourth world? Only the size of characters change. Darkseid has created new realities on earth too and has infused Batman with enough energy to destroy the ****ing universe.
http://i.imgur.com/Gd1UkNu.jpg
But hey, characters' feats don't matter when it suits marvel fanboys.
Originally posted by abhilegendDoomsday wasn't boom tubed there . He showed up and straight pwned. The writer who penned it also said Darkseid isn't very powerful and would lose ten out of ten to Doomsday.
Who said they equalize in power when arriving in fourth world? Only the size of characters change. Darkseid has created new realities on earth too and has infused Batman with enough energy to destroy the ****ing universe.http://i.imgur.com/Gd1UkNu.jpg
But hey, characters' feats don't matter when it suits marvel fanboys.
This is the writers intention of Hp. 🙂
Originally posted by abhilegend
Who said they equalize in power when arriving in fourth world? Only the size of characters change. Darkseid has created new realities on earth too and has infused Batman with enough energy to destroy the ****ing universe.http://i.imgur.com/Gd1UkNu.jpg
But hey, characters' feats don't matter when it suits marvel fanboys.
When did Darkseid create pocket realities? How big were they?
Originally posted by Golgo13
When did Darkseid create pocket realities? How big were they?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Also its not just a one time feat, Darkseid created several realities to torture Shilo Norman.http://imgur.com/K3y1Lhw
http://imgur.com/PCLZJiJ
http://imgur.com/7GtLk09
http://imgur.com/99coZcjThese were fully formed realities as you can see characters like Superman, Captain Marvel dying and what not.
But apparently they are just space cheese.
Not pocket realities. Full formed seeing how there are characters like Captain Marvel, superman, wonder woman existing in those realities.
Originally posted by abhilegendFranklin Richards can create universes too, does that mean that beating him up physically is some majorly impressive feat?
Hulk has also been incapable of beating Thor in like 15 slugfests despite being totally angry except LTBB. Thor doesn't get stronger either, that's a better comparison than destroying inanimate objects. Otherwise Doomsday has beaten a planetful of beings each of who can create UNIVERSES. Universe>>>>....................Planets. Don't you agree?
This is also very important with regards to writers intent to Doomsday and the threat he was and for the reasoning behind it.
DAN JURGENS: Yeah. Yeah.
Here’s a secret: I use competitive athletics as logic for how superhero fights and battles take place. You see this all the time . . . take a very-well established team. A new team, that supposedly has no chance to win, comes into town and beats their [butt]. And why does it happen? It’s because the supposed stronger, better team takes it for granted that they are going to win and [underestimates] the tactics that their opponent is using. It happens all the time.
I apply that to superheroes, as well. I think that with the first contact with Doomsday, the entire Justice League, and certainly Superman, were slow to realize exactly what they were dealing with. First [Doomsday] was just a guy marching through the wilderness. We called him a force of nature, and that’s really how we saw him at the time-but there was that slowness to react.
Add to that that Superman has side concerns at the same time-he’s going to save this block of the city, he’s going to save this kid from falling out the window, this kid from dying in the fire-and it makes [beating Doomsday] difficult.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Yawn, ripping a hole in space is so September 10th. Hulk has tanked attacks strong enough to destroy planets, punches strong enough to tear apart reality, and attacks that destroyed dimensional barriers.
Just wanted to say, Doomsday survived being hit by an attack so powerful, it tore a hole in space:Knocked him out, sure.....but you can bet he will survive the next attack of that type.
Originally posted by Brockalizer
Yawn, ripping a hole in space is so September 10th. Hulk has tanked attacks strong enough to destroy planets, punches strong enough to tear apart reality, and attacks that destroyed dimensional barriers.
Ok. Writer intent, however, was that he was the Ultimate. The Omega Beast. He would survive entropy at the end of the universe blah blah.
Hulk is the strongest there is. However, based off Pak's and other's intents, the monster still has his own personality and intelligence - and this monster reins himself in and places controls on himself.
Drop Doomsday on Marvel Earth, and have all the other heroes stand back, and Doomsday will eventually win. Hulk does not kill, and Hulk does not let himself go. He lets loose only when its Mindless Ones, or when he knows the characters he kills will come back. Per writers' intentions, although he is the strongest there is, it is very rare we will see WBH again outside of extreme circumstances (after all, he was being tooled by Thanos et al and WBH did not make an appearance).
Doomsday, however, was intended to be an engine of destruction. He does not hold back, and lives only to kill and win his fights. He has an ADHD approach to fights because he simply moves on after he's beaten someone. With Hulk, he will stick around and fight it out.
Either it ends in a stalemate, as Jax said, or Doomsday wins.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Ok. Writer intent, however, was that he was the Ultimate. The Omega Beast. He would survive entropy at the end of the universe blah blah.Hulk is the strongest there is. However, based off Pak's and other's intents, the monster still has his own personality and intelligence - and this monster reins himself in and places controls on himself.
Drop Doomsday on Marvel Earth, and have all the other heroes stand back, and Doomsday will eventually win. Hulk does not kill, and Hulk does not let himself go. He lets loose only when its Mindless Ones, or when he knows the characters he kills will come back. Per writers' intentions, although he is the strongest there is, it is very rare we will see WBH again outside of extreme circumstances (after all, he was being tooled by Thanos et al and WBH did not make an appearance).
Doomsday, however, was intended to be an engine of destruction. He does not hold back, and lives only to kill and win his fights. He has an ADHD approach to fights because he simply moves on after he's beaten someone. With Hulk, he will stick around and fight it out.
Either it ends in a stalemate, as Jax said, or Doomsday wins.
Though if you applied the same mentality to Hulk (Mindless/Bannerless Hulk, HOTM) I don't see how Doomsday is going to stop the him in all honesty.
Forum fights don't have the risk of collateral damage, tho, so the "holding back" mindset might not be in play on this scenario at all. Also, I feel like "eventually" is more Hulk's forte than DD's. A prolonged fight will serve Hulk's amping than it would DD's adapting, least IMI.
It just comes down to: can DD take out Hulk before he amps up too much?
Originally posted by The Sorrow
I agree with most of this.Though if you applied the same mentality to Hulk (Mindless/Bannerless Hulk, HOTM) I don't see how Doomsday is going to stop the him in all honesty.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Forum fights don't have the risk of collateral damage, tho, so the "holding back" mindset might not be in play on this scenario at all. Also, I feel like "eventually" is more Hulk's forte than DD's. A prolonged fight will serve Hulk's amping than it would DD's adapting, least IMI.It just comes down to: can DD take out Hulk before he amps up too much?
I can agree with both of these. Yes, Sorrow, a VERY strong case can be made for Mindless/Bannerless/HOTM Hulk just straight up punching Doomsday to death, but there is a shred of doubt in my mind whether it would be to the extent that he would be out of it for a sufficiently long time.
And yes, Nibby, drop them both on a desolate planet, and tell an intelligent Hulk (Green Scar, but NOT Indestructible Hulk) that Doomsday is a punching bag whom he can unleash on, and he will take it. He ramps up in a matter of moments, so can take Doomy out in a short time.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I can agree with both of these. Yes, Sorrow, a VERY strong case can be made for Mindless/Bannerless/HOTM Hulk just straight up punching Doomsday to death, but there is a shred of doubt in my mind whether it would be to the extent that he would be out of it for a sufficiently long time.And yes, Nibby, drop them both on a desolate planet, and tell an intelligent Hulk (Green Scar, but NOT Indestructible Hulk) that Doomsday is a punching bag whom he can unleash on, and he will take it. He ramps up in a matter of moments, so can take Doomy out in a short time.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I can agree with both of these. Yes, Sorrow, a VERY strong case can be made for Mindless/Bannerless/HOTM Hulk just straight up punching Doomsday to death, but there is a shred of doubt in my mind whether it would be to the extent that he would be out of it for a sufficiently long time.And yes, Nibby, drop them both on a desolate planet, and tell an intelligent Hulk (Green Scar, but NOT Indestructible Hulk) that Doomsday is a punching bag whom he can unleash on, and he will take it. He ramps up in a matter of moments, so can take Doomy out in a short time.
Agreed.
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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Ok. Writer intent, however, was that he was the Ultimate. The Omega Beast. He would survive entropy at the end of the universe blah blah.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Drop Doomsday on Marvel Earth, and have all the other heroes stand back, and Doomsday will eventually win. Hulk does not kill, and Hulk does not let himself go. He lets loose only when its Mindless Ones, or when he knows the characters he kills will come back.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He has an ADHD approach to fights because he simply moves on after he's beaten someone. With Hulk, he will stick around and fight it out.
