Star Wars: The Force Awakens

Originally posted by Robtard
Just be happy it's not Lucas, cos you'd get the box set, then later a box set with improved sound would be relased, then a boxed set with added scenes, then enhanced CGI so on and so forth.

Or maybe he liked making money off the same three movies for decades?

Originally posted by Nephthys
The Prequels are almost objectively terrible. Its ok that you like them Thor, but they really are just absolutely terrible movies.

Oh yeah very objective statement. You're right though. The Prequels massively devalued the franchise. Which explains why TFA struggled to bank money on it's opening weekend. It's only hope now is Word of Mouth.

I'm going to be perfectly honest here. I prefer Abrams Star Trek to his Star Wars. I think Trek just suited him better because he's a great at setting the right tone, getting great performances out of his actors, and directing action sequences.

Unfortunately (I feel) he lacks the Imagination Star Wars requires. This is the first Star Wars film to be completely Unoriginal in it's plot (IMO of course).

Having said that, I still think it's a nice set up for Episode 8, and I have high hopes from Rian Johnson for the next installment. And just generally still have high hopes for the franchise.

Havent seen the movie yet.

Keep hearing that Kylo is a let down villain though..

Shame.

^ Well he was to me personally, but some people are Raving about him. So you might enjoy him.

We shall see.

From what I read so far...
Though the whole untrained thing is kinda meh though.

If a stormtrooper does well against a sith he is just meh . Imo.

Originally posted by Estacado
We shall see.

From what I read so far...
Though the whole untrained thing is kinda meh though.

If a stormtrooper does well against a sith he is just meh . Imo.

Well there is Context to that. But my opinion on it is it was more of a story telling problem than a reflection on his abilities tbh.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well there is Context to that. But my opinion on it is it was more of a story telling problem than a reflection on his abilities tbh.

Keep in mind that

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a random nameless trooper steamrolled Finn in an earlier scene on melee combat without the advantage of a lightsaber

Originally posted by quanchi112 in the 'Last Movie You Saw' Thread
[QUOTE=15528194]Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Star Wars: The Force Awakens

What were your thoughts ? [/QUOTE]

(CAUTION: Not gonna use many spoiler tags, because if you don't want spoilers you shouldn't be reading this thread. That's why I avoided it for so long.)

I actually rather enjoyed it. I thought the characters had real interest and chemistry again (as opposed to the prequel trilogy). I absolutely loved that they used lots of practical effects. The scenes shot on the scavenger planet were probably my favorite of the whole movie and for the most part the cinematography was excellent, so JJ Abrams delivered where I was afraid he might screw it up. All in all I think JJ Abrams turned out to be a good choice to revive Star Wars because creating characters is something that he does well.

I only had very minor quibbles with Abrams touches. For example, it's great that they used so many practical effects, but the only trouble was that when they did use CGI it was very distracting, like the new "Emperor" with the First Order (I can't remember his name). That looked very JJ Abrams (like the creature from Super 8), and was distracting. Why not just do that practically? And why is he so big unnecessarily? He was a projection hologram, but it seemed unnecessary. Maybe there will be a good reason, though.. I digress.

I really enjoyed it. I was struck with how funny it was, some very good lines. Han Solo had so many of the funny lines.

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It's a shame he had to go. Why couldn't they kill Leia instead?! Haha..

Originally posted by Bentley
Keep in mind that

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a random nameless trooper steamrolled Finn in an earlier scene on melee combat without the advantage of a lightsaber

That I actually thought was a cool fight

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(unlike the finale)

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...Ren...

That's what I mean when I say it's more of a story telling problem than a reflection on

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Ren's abilities

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
[B]For example, it's great that they used so many practical effects, but the only trouble was that when they did use CGI it was very distracting, like the new "Emperor" with the First Order (I can't remember his name). That looked very JJ Abrams (like the creature from Super 8), and was distracting. Why not just do that practically? And why is he so big unnecessarily? He was a projection hologram, but it seemed unnecessary. Maybe there will be a good reason, though.. I digress.

This is so true. The CGI stood out and was in your face next to all the Practical effects.

Originally posted by Patient_Leech

(CAUTION: Not gonna use many spoiler tags, because if you don't want spoilers you shouldn't be reading this thread. That's why I avoided it for so long.)

Good on you, mate, taking a stand!

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Oh yeah very objective statement. You're right though. The Prequels massively devalued the franchise. Which explains why TFA struggled to bank money on it's opening weekend. It's only hope now is Word of Mouth.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka

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I'm more concerned with how exactly Kylo Renw as able to kill all of Luke's other Padawan. Unlike RoTS where Anakin had an opening and Clone army to support his kid massacre, I'm not sure how Kylo Ren manage to do as much damage as he did an get away with it w/o Luke doing anything about it.

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I presume that Luke didn't have much of a Jedi Order. If so, how many Jedi's could he possibly be training on his own? Ren at least had the other Knights and Snoke

Originally posted by The_Tempest

A black actor in 2015? #soedgy

Considering it exploded into a boycott star wars "movement" yeah that's edgy to make him a stormtrooper. At least to some people out there.

But you're right, I don't think it was done to BE EDGY. But it still irks quite a ****load of people
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In regards to

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Rey being so talented with the force, the explanation is right there in the title. The Force is Awakening. The LIGHT side. And it's acting through Rey as a conduit to bring itself back into prominence in the galaxy.

Originally posted by Inhuman

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I find it dumb that Finn was able to hold his own against Kylo for a few reasons.

- Finn is not force sensitive
- Finn wasnt some elite storm trooper. He was basically a janitor.

Well we don't know for sure that

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Finn isn't force sensitive.

And wasn't he raised as a baby to be a stormtrooper? Even if his official job was in sanitation, he's probably capable. Considering you already pointed out he mowed down several his former allies

I didn't care much for Snoke's design. He really looked like Voldemort, but like, the Voldemort coming out of the back of that dude's head

Originally posted by Robtard
Just be happy it's not Lucas, cos you'd get the box set, then later a box set with improved sound would be relased, then a boxed set with added scenes, then enhanced CGI so on and so forth.

I'm pretty sure that'll still happen. The Lucas influence will be there but I'm a "buy just one box set per franchise" type of goat. Unless they made it hella worthwhile, then I foresee a selling of the old and buying of the new.

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Also, yeah! His movie made Stormtroopers somewhat capable. I thought for sure that Trooper that took Finn on was gonna last about two seconds, granted Finn www inexperienced as hell, but the fact that they're busting out Tonfa shit instead of just aimlessly firing laser shots made the film better for me.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
The prequels damaged the overall franchise. They didn't make anywhere NEAR the money that they should have because they weren't very good. ROTS was pretty good but 1&2 were awful. The reason TFA is primed to make so much money is:
A) People are hungry for a GOOD Star Wars movie
B) Word of Mouth about this movie has been stellar and people are flocking to it.
C) It's the best Star Wars movie in 30+ years.

LOL

And I'll tell you this movie hasn't made anywhere near as much as it should of because "it wasn't very good" if it doesn't surpass the predicted $2billion. And after this OW, it should reach that IF everyone watching it really does believe it's stellar.

But more likely it's doing exceptionally well because fans of both the Originals and Prequels flocked to see this, as even the Prequel fans have not had a SW movie in 10 years.

Make up all the excuses you want. But figures don't lie. Biggest OW of all time means financially speaking the Franchise has not been damaged one bit by the Prequels. WOM hardly makes a difference for an OW that was so heavily pre-booked.

Stop giving your Opinions and theories as facts.

You are such an aggressive posters, his just giving his opinion.

Funny every time you speak, you act like what you say is actual fact and that if anyone disagrees with you, they are wrong..

So who made you the authority on everything?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
You are such an aggressive posters, his just giving his opinion.

Funny every time you speak, you act like what you say is actual fact and that if anyone disagrees with you, they are wrong..

So who made you the authority on everything?

Are you dense?

It was him saying it's a "fact" that Everyone Loves this movie. Not me.

Actually I'd say you're the most aggressive poster here.

Lol right, I can't have a debate about Thor with you without you taking it personally