Originally posted by Astner
The droids use those sounds to communicate, so it only makes sense that those beeps would follow an advanced form of Morse Code which shouldn't be impossible to learn provided that the sounds are primarily within the human hearing spectrum.
heh nice, except the same applied to R2, yet he always needed an interpreter. even with people he'd been hanging out with for years needed 3p0 to explain what he was saying.
obvious answer: rey is actually a protocol droid
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
heh nice, except the same applied to R2, yet he always needed an interpreter. even with people he'd been hanging out with for years needed 3p0 to explain what he was saying.obvious answer: rey is actually a protocol droid
Luke understood Artoo when they were alone on Degobah, though.
Originally posted by Patient_LeechI do not want him
I hear ya. It was done so well, and was very good, but could have been stellar with a more original story.I did like Kylo Ren as a villain.
Spoiler:We've never seen that in a Star Wars movie before. It would be interesting.
Wish he had put the light saber down and been redeemed, though.
Spoiler:
to be redeemed.
Originally posted by 80sBaby
Luke understood Artoo when they were alone on Degobah, though.
he talked to r2 but gave no sign that he understood what r2 was saying.
the only time luke was able to have a true 1 on 1, 2 way conversation, without 3p0's interpreting, was in his xwing. in that case his xwing served as interpreter and displayed r2's words as a text message on luke's dashboard. it was clearly depicted that luke needed that text to understand wtf r2 was saying.
Originally posted by Astner
It was specified in the original trilogy that Storm Troopers weren't clones?
Yes in the revamped editions of the OT, Lucas changed Boba Fett's voice to Jango's voice, but he didn't change the Stormtroopers voices.
It's also been confirmed in the Canon novels set between the PT and OT. There were hardly any clones in service just 5 years after the PT.
Originally posted by Quincy
He's confused, the line in The Force Awakens means that the First Order Stormtroopers aren't clones.
Nah, you guys are confused. Neither the OT or TFA had Clone Troopers. But that line was clearly put in the film so people wouldn't get confused and think Troopers were still clones.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
he talked to r2 but gave no sign that he understood what r2 was saying.the only time luke was able to have a true 1 on 1, 2 way conversation, without 3p0's interpreting, was in his xwing. in that case his xwing served as interpreter and displayed r2's words as a text message on luke's dashboard. it was clearly depicted that luke needed that text to understand wtf r2 was saying.
I took the on board computer as being used for more complex sentence structure but basic "language" could be understood.
Originally posted by 80sBaby
I took the on board computer as being used for more complex sentence structure but basic "language" could be understood.
i'm gonna need a shred of evidence to accept that, even as a possibility. any bit of 2-way dialogue where r2 beeps out something and luke understands and responds to that, as opposed to responding in the same way that someone does with their barking/meowing pets.
Originally posted by Quincy
Now I'm confused about the stormtroopers being clones or not, and wondering if I should care
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yes in the revamped editions of the OT, Lucas changed Boba Fett's voice to Jango's voice, but he didn't change the Stormtroopers voices.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
It's also been confirmed in the Canon novels set between the PT and OT. There were hardly any clones in service just 5 years after the PT.
Originally posted by Astner
Because the Storm Troopers spoke through a noise filter, it wasn't their actual voice that you were hearing.
What? So does Boba Fett. The stormtroopers all had different voices. They were not clones.
Originally posted by Astner
Disney did away with all that. Only the movies are canon at this point.
And then they started their new Canon books which is what I'm talking about.
The clone army was a really creative concept that they could've done a lot with especially with explanations in relation to Force sensitivity—for instance: Force sensitivity being an uninheritable trait that existed independent of genetics would explain why Sith Lords weren't mass-produced, and it would also add the mysterious nature of the force.
I don't know, the movie seemed more of an attempt to appease current fans than a serious effort to revitalize the franchise.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
The stormtroopers all had different voices.
As I said, George Lucas could've come up with the clone concept long after the original trilogy was released and then implemented the idea afterwards.
And again, in Attack of the Clones it was made clear that the clones were better than recruits. So it doesn't make sense that they would've stopped producing clones and start recruiting.
And in the light of The Force Awakens, if the First Order would've stuck to clones they would've won; they would've captured the droid, found Luke and and destroyed the planet he was standing on.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
And then they started their new Canon books which is what I'm talking about.
Originally posted by Astner
I'm pretty sure they didn't. But even if they did, it's doesn't confirm anything other than that different voice actors were used.As I said, George Lucas could've come up with the clone concept long after the original trilogy was released.
You're not listening. Lucas changed Boba's voice in the OT voice AFTER the PT. But he didn't change the Stormtroopers voices.
Originally posted by Astner
Even if it is explained in the new books, it's too important to have been left out of the movie; and so it's bad writing.
Lucas didn't add a line to the OT explaining it. That's the disadvantage of making Prequels after the Originals.
But they did explain in this movie that they were not a clone army anymore.