Wasn't it said somewhere that the clones have accelerated aging? Maybe that had something to do with the reasn why they weren't used.
Originally posted by CPT Space BombSpoiler:
As I stated before. SOMEONE had to be the very first Jedi/Sith. That person would have learned everything by themselves (technically it would be The Force through them)...That being said, I don't even think that's the case. I think that Rey has had prior training but just doesn't remember it yet. Either that or she is just an uber powerful force wielder..... Either way I'm definitely going to enjoy the speculation until Episode 8.
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Even if that's true for Rey's case, the audience shouldn't have to assume that: right now it looks like she just became decent a the force for no reason. Even if Rey is a prodigy in force application, its still silly that she's able to overpower Kylo Ren's force pull of the lightsaber/
Edit: Oops my bad
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakkaSpoiler:
Even if that's true for Rey's case, the audience shouldn't have to assume that: right now it looks like she just became decent a the force for no reason. Even if Rey is a prodigy in force application, its still silly that she's able to overpower Kylo Ren's force pull of the lightsaber/
Isn't it possible that it chose her?
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Wasn't it said somewhere that the clones have accelerated aging? Maybe that had something to do with the reasn why they weren't used.Spoiler:
Even if that's true for Rey's case, the audience shouldn't have to assume that: right now it looks like she just became decent a the force for no reason. Even if Rey is a prodigy in force application, its still silly that she's able to overpower Kylo Ren's force pull of the lightsaber/Edit: Oops my bad
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Unless, due to his wounds and exhaustion, he already was hardly able to pull it, in that case someone fresh, even if untrained, may be able to.Again, the movie made put an excessive spotlight on the incredible power of Chewbacca's crossbow, that is what Kylo Ren was hit with, that he's standing at all, is impressive.
Originally posted by Quincy
Dude it's a magical energy that let's people shoot lightning out of their fingers and fly around and tell the future.
The people using the Force does all that through their own mastery.
Basically whenever the word Force can be replaced with the word "Plot", we're not looking at a good use of the Force.
Originally posted by queeq
The Force equal magic. That's something you have accept in these movies. If you can't, then maybe SW is not for you.Spoiler:
Pssst... SW isn't real, it's only a movie
Really now? Color me shocked.
The Force must be used. Harry Potter didn't beat Voldemort because magic chose him to beat Voldemort. Likewise Vader didn't beat Luke in Empire because the Force chose for him to win. The Force didn't block out the Jedi's ability to see the future, Sidious did.
And the Force did not pick Rey over Ben. She's simply better at using it as shown in more than one scene. Is she the Chosen One? Is she Luke's daughter? Doesn't really matter. She's better than Ben and that's all that really matters. Assuming the Force weirdly picked Rey to win in this one instance is as silly as Anakin destroying an army at age 10. Chalk it up to raw natural talent and bad writing.
Actually, even in the movies it doesn't just have to be used, places apparently can also be strong in the force, like the cave on Dagobah.
And she's better than Ben if Ben is shot in the stomach by a bowcaster, we don't know whether she's better than Ben generally, there's no evidence in the movie that she would be.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Actually, even in the movies it doesn't just have to be used, places apparently can also be strong in the force, like the cave on Dagobah.And she's better than Ben if Ben is shot in the stomach by a bowcaster, we don't know whether she's better than Ben generally, there's no evidence in the movie that she would be.
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She back talked the shit out of him in the interrogation scene. Enough to freak him out because of how strong she was with the Force.
Originally posted by queeq
The Force just exists. The Force 'guides' your actions, the Force 'guides' people. There is a 'will of the Force'... so what do you mean it has to be used??As OB1 said: it controls your actions but it also obeys your commands. The Force is more than a tool.
Well of course in the grand scheme of things the Force is something no one in the Star Wars Universe can understand and it is a convenient out for scenes
Spoiler:But in the context of that scene, i.e
(how did Chewie know where Rey was as the Starkiller was exploding).
Spoiler:we have no reason to think that is the "will of the Force" and looking at it that way is not really satisfying to the audience.
Rey's use of the Force being strong enough to get the lightsabre and allow her to outfight Ben,
Remember Yoda vs Dooku(or Yoda vs Sidious)? The reason they stopped throwing stuff was because they were more or less equals at using the Force. The reason
Spoiler:at the end is basically the same.
Rey wins