Originally posted by quanchi112
Kylo was toying with Finn but with Rey he talked to her and tried saying hey let me train you mid saber clash.Vader was redeemed and I didn't say he wasn't evil I just said Kylo has already proven himself to be more evil.
Given the scene where, Fin faced off against the Stormtrooper whilst professionally using a lightsaber, it was very poorly expressed that, Kylo was toying with anyone. It doesn't matter how well, Fin did or didn't do against, Kylo. My point is that Fin should not have been able to wield a lightsaber in battle. Just like, Rey.
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
Given the scene where, Fin faced off against the Stormtrooper whilst professionally using a lightsaber, it was very poorly expressed that, Kylo was toying with anyone. It doesn't matter how well, Fin did or didn't do against, Kylo. My point is that Fin should not have been able to wield a lightsaber in battle. Just like, Rey.
Originally posted by The_TempestDraco Malfoy didn't teach Voldemort everything he knew and tried to kill him. You're ignoring the rest of the history and just taking that out of the equation.
Draco Malfoy outlived Voldemort lol. You should be careful how you try to spin thInge, quan. Regardless of whether or not Snoke is Plagueis, we know Snoke had to wait until the Emperor died before he made his own bid for power. Looks like he was wary about trying anything when Sheev was alive. Sounds like fear. 😉
Let me ask you this. Do you think Disney would portray him as lucky or a master manipulator greater than the likes of Palpatine for their new trilogy. Which seems likelier ?
Originally posted by AstnerAnakin didn't even kill his son so he more than hesitated he outright failed.
That's debatable, especially since we don't know of his relation to his father. What isn't debatable though is that Kylo Ren hesitated while Anakin didn't.And let's not forget, Kylo Ren aspires to be like Darth Vader.
He's a larger Voldemort.
Yes, but he knows fully well that Vader did fail and was brought back to the light.
We don't know how big he is since that was a hologram. Speculation.
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNxI do not think so as Kylo quickly cut him down after he was struck. Finn is trained in combat and Pre Vizsla and other Star Wars characters have wielded lightsabers. They are just laser swords. Ren had more skill and he was injured.
Given the scene where, Fin faced off against the Stormtrooper whilst professionally using a lightsaber, it was very poorly expressed that, Kylo was toying with anyone. It doesn't matter how well, Fin did or didn't do against, Kylo. My point is that Fin should not have been able to wield a lightsaber in battle. Just like, Rey.
Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
If Rey turns out to be a Skywalker, then it explains everything she's done in the movie. If not, it wouldn't make sense how anyone besides the Skywalker line could progress as quickly as she did. The only other logical reason would be she is Anakin's reincarnation, or was conceived by Midi-chlorians.
I really hope she doesn't turn out to be related to Luke.
I mean it's cringe-worthy enough to have Han & Leia's son opting to the Dark Side & then reveal Rey is Luke's daughter would just be too convenient.
It would also take the essence away from Good vs Bad by reducing it to just two families having a squabble.
I think the Force was strong in Rey simply because she was young, naive, had a good heart & wasn't swayed by good or evil.
Same with young Luke. The only difference was that he was head strong & had doubts. Rey didn't doubt the force as shown when she was captured & believed in the Force to free her. She just didn't know how to control it until she realised it was about believing in herself, thus escaping.
My prediction for Episode 9:
Spoiler:
This trilogy will end with one of the most common clichés ever. Luke faces the main antagonist (Snoke/Kylo Ren/a really powerful Sith), but ends up dying, but not before dealing a critical blow that leaves his opponent gravely injured. Rey shows up at the scene and finishes off the antagonist. Luke gives his farewell speech to Rey, revealing that she was his daughter all along, and asks her to pass the Light Side of the Force to the future generations before turning into a Force Ghost. In the epilogue, Force Ghosts and CGU of every major character that died in all 3 trilogies will appear against the backdrop, smiling at Rey and Co.
You read it here first, folks.
Star Wars just smashing records everywhere. Man, if you listened to the forums here, it shouldn't even break prequel money.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/12/27/star-wars-breaks-another-huge-box-office-milestone
Originally posted by CPT Space BombHuh?
Star Wars just smashing records everywhere. Man, if you listened to the forums here, it shouldn't even break prequel money.http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/12/27/star-wars-breaks-another-huge-box-office-milestone
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Star Wars just smashing records everywhere. Man, if you listened to the forums here, it shouldn't even break prequel money.http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/12/27/star-wars-breaks-another-huge-box-office-milestone
Huh? What about Prequel money? The last SW movie that came after such a long time was TPM. Which was a massive massive hit back in 1999. On the level of the first Jurassic Park. And whatever you say about that movie it certainly had box office legs (didn't have the biggest OW of all time. Failed to Jurassic Park 2. But performed far far better in the end). And that despite fighting terrible critical reviews.
Now it's been another 10 years since a Star Wars movie, and people are clearly excited, and the critics are on board this time which will only help. In the end it seems the Prequels( the only Star Wars many people have known for the last 16 years) have only added to the Value of the franchise. Because I doubt anyone will say this is the greatest movie of all time. So the vast bulk of the value is in the franchise, not the individual movie IMO. But yeah it's clear most people are having a positive reaction to this film, I'll give you that.