Originally posted by Darth ThorYou're the one with the bullshit. You're on a crusade to whenever someone says something good about this movie, you come back in and shit on it. Look, give it a rest. The evidence is that it's been a resounding success; both financially and critically. THAT'S not an opinion.
This bull s*** again? It's all opinions.
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb👆
You're the one with the bullshit. You're on a crusade to whenever someone says something good about this movie, you come back in and shit on it. Look, give it a rest. The evidence is that it's been a resounding success; both financially and critically. THAT'S not an opinion.
Originally posted by queeq
Yes, so? That's what we do here.Here's a simple comparison between the PT and TFA: PT was boring most of the time, TFA was not. Ergo, TFA was more entertaining.
Even if true, it would still wouldn't make the PT worse movies. Because sheer fun isn't the only value we can use to objectively measure a work of art.
Also people should just stop trying to bash the Prequels, it won't make this average movie any better.
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
You're the one with the bullshit. You're on a crusade to whenever someone says something good about this movie, you come back in and shit on it. Look, give it a rest. The evidence is that it's been a resounding success; both financially and critically. THAT'S not an opinion.
LOL If anyone's on a crusade here it's you to try and make it some kind of "fact" that this movie is a good/great movie.
Again I'll repeat the same old arguments until you get it:
TPM was also a huge financial success (with a massive box office multiplier). Does that make TPM being a good movie "a fact."
ROTS also had financial success and has good scores on RT and IMDB. Does that make it "a fact" that ROTS was a good movie also?
So it's funny how you call the people criticizing this movie as "haters" but don't give the same label to those who've bashed the Prequels.
Art is subjective. And this movie has certainly had opposing reception from fans and audiences alike.
Originally posted by queeq
Yes, so? That's what we do here.Here's a simple comparison between the PT and TFA: PT was boring most of the time, TFA was not. Ergo, TFA was more entertaining.
That's fine. I'm not calling you a Hater or a Minority opinion for saying that. And I'm not trying to make it as some sort of "fact" that the Prequels were good/great movies either.
Originally posted by Darth ThorNo. Because, as usual, you're leaving out the REVIEWS across the boards. TPM was panned critically and therefore, while being a financial success, it's not generally considered a good movie.
TPM was also a huge financial success (with a massive box office multiplier). Does that make TPM being a good movie "a fact
Originally posted by BentleyFixed that for you.
Also Darth Thor should just stop trying to bash TFA, it won't make the average PT any better.
Originally posted by The_TempestGood, I'm happy to bring up all the articles that trash The prequels; at least the first 2. 👆
I was 8 at the time of its release, but I've read articles that describe TPM's initial critical reception as being pretty positive. I'll do my homework a little later and see what I can dig up. 👍
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Fixed that for you.
Still, people need to be pretty insecure about the movie to shield themselves behind "Prequel hate" to defend it.
The sheer amount of people that feel compelled to spontaneously drop sh_t on the Prequels when anyone criticizes TFA is ridiculous.
That was my point anyways, no need to mix the movies in order to defend TFA, specially if it's so "objectively" decent.
Originally posted by Bentley
Still, people need to be pretty insecure about the movie to shield themselves behind "Prequel hate" to defend it.The sheer amount of people that feel compelled to spontaneously drop sh_t on the Prequels when anyone criticizes TFA is ridiculous.
That was my point anyways, no need to mix the movies in order to defend TFA, specially if it's so "objectively" decent.
To be fair, that's not at all specific to Star Wars. That's just what people tend to do, irrational as it is.
Same folks who will criticize a DC movie to defend a Marvel film. Or Vice Versa. Or if someone insults original Star Trek to defend the new Star Trek series
Originally posted by BentleyPeople didn't start dropping hate on the prequels until people mentioned the prequels as superior films. IMO, the only prequel that is even close to TFA is ROTS.
Still, people need to be pretty insecure about the movie to shield themselves behind "Prequel hate" to defend it.The sheer amount of people that feel compelled to spontaneously drop sh_t on the Prequels when anyone criticizes TFA is ridiculous.
That was my point anyways, no need to mix the movies in order to defend TFA, specially if it's so "objectively" decent.
Originally posted by The_TempestTPM was boring the first time I watched it. Granted TFA was a letdown but only due to the expectations I had going in. The third time I watched TFA I enjoyed it the best. Still lots of problems with it but I still say it's a good movie just not a great one.
Absolutely. But that's what I mean: I've seen TFA once and TPM lots of times across 17 years. One is fresh whereas the other is aged. Exposure can affect entertainment pretty significantly.
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
No. Because, as usual, you're leaving out the REVIEWS across the boards. TPM was panned critically and therefore, while being a financial success, it's not generally considered a good movie.
Yeah you see you're mixing and matching 2 completely different measurement scales which have nothing to do with the other.
One is financial success.
The other are Reviews.
Financial success certainly indicates interest of the GA in seeing the movie (perhaps more than once). Whilst reviews have really nothing to do with the GA.
You're hiding behind that combination (that TFA has) to try and pretend this film is "Objectively" good, and "Objectively" better than the Prequels. That is silly. But I'm not going to keep going back and forth arguing your stubborn view of this topic.