Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
I already forgot the girls name, that's how in important she was😂
Rey was great, you hater.
And this is coming from me, the poster who spent a considerable amount of his KMC career making kitchen jokes about Wonder Woman.
PS. Diana is making me sandwiches at this very moment.
Originally posted by queeqYes, I also agree it was lackluster but you really hate it. To me all both opening films of said trilogies were the weakest of the three so this TFA could also follow suit when this trilogy is said and done.
No... I am just extremely disappointed that if one has no restraints at all in making these movies, this is the result. And arguably there are serious, serious problems with character and plot design in these movies.
Well, I disagree. I think ANH is still a very well made movie. ROTJ ends rather weak. But I do feel the important scenes of ROTJ of Luke, Vader and the Emperor) work very well. The OT makes the crucial scenes work.
That's exactly where the PT fails. It THE main problem with these movies. It's not so much hate... why would I hate it? But to praise these movies is really weird, because the crucial elements are done so badly. It's like you watch the filmed version of a very first script draft.
Originally posted by queeqIt is just in my opinion as your criticisms are just your opinion.
Well, I disagree. I think ANH is still a very well made movie. ROTJ ends rather weak. But I do feel the important scenes of ROTJ of Luke, Vader and the Emperor) work very well. The OT makes the crucial scenes work.That's exactly where the PT fails. It THE main problem with these movies. It's not so much hate... why would I hate it? But to praise these movies is really weird, because the crucial elements are done so badly. It's like you watch the filmed version of a very first script draft.
Originally posted by queeqPeople disagree. It is just your opinion and I agree it isn't a good film but this is subjective. I didn't say you didn't have your reasons I just said they are just your perceptions.
Why? I think I am offering a lot arguments and considerations why I think this way about the PT.
Originally posted by Inhuman
YouTube video
Dude, when he started dancing to his own tunes, I lost all of my shit. 😆
Originally posted by queeq
Well, QGJ says that finding Anakin was the will of the Force. And how did they find Anakin? By getting stuck in this taxation dispute, strange blockade and escape thing and ending up in Tatooine. They only reason they FIND Anakin, is because they were sent on this mission. Ergo, that would be the Force guiding them.
You're one of my favorite people on this site so I won't treat you with the snarky assholish comment replies like I do most people. My response to the above is that it wasn't the force, it was the future Emperor that got everything set into motion. He orchestrated the blockade against Naboo (which resulted in them having to go to Tatooine for engine parts...bla bla bla, I already typed that out so excuse my laziness).
I wouldn't argue with you if you suggested that Palpy used the farseeing ability to help set that in motion (because he foresaw that they would run across Anakin Skywalker and get him within range of his influence so he could get the most powerful apprentice ever).
Originally posted by queeq
Well, basically we don't know the answers to these things yet. It just depends on how much the sequels are going to give us information about that. So what we have here is a lot of questions.
I agree. The bastards who keep whining about some of the unanswered questions need to lighten up. It was like this for "A New Hope" when it first came out (the old timers tell me). And everyone was losing their shit (in a good way) when "Empire Strikes Back" basically ended on a non-ending with tons of plot left to be resolved.
Originally posted by queeq
In the PT all the questions that Lucas wanted to answer have been answered. And still we don't get it.
Well...it didn't seem like that to me. The PT answered many questions left from the OT and it was (IMO) the better of the 2 trilogies on how much sense the plot makes. Sure, it is a bit more complicated.
Originally posted by AuraAngel
Because the lightsaber happening to be in this random bar at just the right moment for our heroes to need it for the climax breaks suspension of disbelief for some I suppose.Could have saved all the trouble by just having the lightsaber be on the Falcon.
I like this idea, better. And then have Han say a one sentence line about how he completed a series of trade deals and steals to get his hands on it.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I'm fairly certain that's because Lucas did only write a first draft.I've even seen a clip of him looking at some of the sets and props and murmuring "wow, I should probably start working on that script...." or something.
Yeah I had a friend who worked on the lighting on set for the last trilogy.
He said both cast & cast wasted a lot of hours on set constantly waiting on Lucas to write the next batch of scenes & dialogue. And considering he worked on other movies for other directors, he really wasn't impressed by Lucas lack of organisation or insight into his own movies.
Originally posted by Esau CairnDarth Thor get in here and tell him Lucas can do no wrong.
Yeah I had a friend who worked on the lighting on set for the last trilogy.
He said both cast & cast wasted a lot of hours on set constantly waiting on Lucas to write the next batch of scenes & dialogue. And considering he worked on other movies for other directors, he really wasn't impressed by Lucas lack of organisation or insight into his own movies.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Tarkin straight up told Vader to stop the force choke and he listened. You always ignore the facts. Troopers ran from Kylo not Vader.
Vader and Tarking listening to each other and working together only made them seem like a legitimate threat. Kylo just comes off as a brat and a clown in comparison.
Originally posted by BentleyVader was the one childishly force choking the guy and Tarkin being the adult told him to stop and he listened. Kylo isn't as experienced and neither was Bader when he was younger so it isn't a fair comparison. Wait till you see Kylo in the second film to make a comparison. Kylo's rage made him interesting to me.
Vader and Tarking listening to each other and working together only made them seem like a legitimate threat. Kylo just comes off as a brat and a clown in comparison.
Originally posted by dadudemon
My response to the above is that it wasn't the force, it was the future Emperor that got everything set into motion. He orchestrated the blockade against Naboo (which resulted in them having to go to Tatooine for engine parts...bla bla bla, I already typed that out so excuse my laziness).I wouldn't argue with you if you suggested that Palpy used the farseeing ability to help set that in motion (because he foresaw that they would run across Anakin Skywalker and get him within range of his influence so he could get the most powerful apprentice ever).
Well, then QGJ would be wrong. And I still don't get what Palpy's original plan was with the blockade and treaty. Unless... he foresaw EVERYTHING that happened in TPM or in the entire PT. But I find that very, very hard to believe (suspension of disbelieve... FAIL)... and it would make Palpy's death in ROTJ be categorized in the immortal segment of BBC's Horrible Histories: Stupid Deaths.
So either way one tosses this coin, one side always ends up looking stupid.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Vader was the one childishly force choking the guy and Tarkin being the adult told him to stop and he listened. Kylo isn't as experienced and neither was Bader when he was younger so it isn't a fair comparison. Wait till you see Kylo in the second film to make a comparison. Kylo's rage made him interesting to me.
I actually question the choice of introducing Kylo as an unexperienced brat only to feel obliged to potty train him between films. The only way this would be worthy at all is if they decide to make an actual plot out of it (make it like Luke going to Dagobah and then you have my attention).
Do you think Vader should have allow those captains to insult him to his face? You'd be calling him a wuss if that had happened awesr