Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Yep.
I meant it in a dismissive manner.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Of course, but by the time of facing Malak it wouldn't make any noticeable difference.
It's a factor. Especially since the trio had to fight through the Leviathan while still recovering from torture too.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
No, it's canon.
It's from Cory J. Herndon.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Cory_J._Herndon
Just because the works or worked (?) for Star Wars doesn't mean his every blog post is canon. What source is that? Why do you have it sourced as Hasbro in your respect thread?
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
They are using all them as examples of most powerful Sith Lords.
Which doesn't mean that every example is worth the same amount. I could name the top 30 most powerful Jedi imo and still have there be a world of difference between the top and bottom.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Maul doesn't compare to Sidious either, but he can hold his own for 10ish seconds. Malak can probably too.
Eeeeeeh? No.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Except that isn't featless.
It basically is. None of those feats are notable or put him above an average Jedi Master.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Me.
I don't care. Its not a valid comparison to Exar Kun.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
By the way you originally said it, you implied that you believe Star Forge amp Malak gets curbed by Revan.
I didn't. I specifically said that if Malak was unamped, if Revan was fresh and if Malak had no Jedi to drain, Revan would stomp him.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
He doesn't need to when he has precognition and force abilities that balance it out and put him above.
🙄
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
You try to PM him, maybe you will have better luck then me.
Or I could just not care. Oh wait, already accomplished.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
But the "way" isn't necessarily true, unless you believe Star Forge Revan got *that* much more powerful then Darth Revan in just two worlds.
Why couldn't he?
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
*Dooku vs Maul.
I said earlier that I would be hard pressed to go as far as Maul. I mean, I'd give Maul the win over Revan if he was in Malak's position on the Star Forge.
Actually....
I meant it in a dismissive manner.
It's a factor. Especially since the trio had to fight through the Leviathan while still recovering from torture too.
Just because the works or worked (?) for Star Wars doesn't mean his every blog post is canon. What source is that? Why do you have it sourced as Hasbro in your respect thread?
Another accolade for Malak, brand new:
"Darth Malak is a straightforward lightsaber combatant. True to his character, his abilities and powers focus on attacking his enemies head on. His high Defense and Attack scores enable him take on strong opponents, and he can increase his damage through Sith Rage when desired."
Which doesn't mean that every example is worth the same amount. I could name the top 30 most powerful Jedi imo and still have there be a world of difference between the top and bottom.
It basically is. None of those feats are notable or put him above an average Jedi Master.
I didn't. I specifically said that if Malak was unamped, if Revan was fresh and if Malak had no Jedi to drain, Revan would stomp him.
I don't care. Its not a valid comparison to Exar Kun.
Why couldn't he?
"Throughout this Jedi Civil War, Darth Revan was the central figure -- first as the enemy commander, but ultimately as the one who defeated Darth Malak and shattered the Sith forces."
"Darth Revan is a formidable piece, with several unique powers or abilities. In fact, compared with Darth Malak, Darth Revan is superior in every category except damage. "
"Force Storm may deter some from engaging the character in melee combat, but Force Corruption has the potential to damage an enemy [for a long time]..."
*Note that this "reflect[s] Darth Revan when he first returned from the Unknown Regions".*
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
*right when Revan awakes from his unconsciousness*
Bastila: "Don't try to move too quickly, you might not be full recovered yet. Admiral Karath had his guards continue to torture you even after you passed out."
The fact Revan is nearly fully recovered already shows that by the time he is freed he would, and without a doubt by the time he faces Malak. That is also a awesome Force Heal/Pain Resistance feat.
If Revan has only just awoken from unconsciousness, then he wouldn't have been using Force Heal at all up to that point. I'm pretty sure they couldn't use the Force at all or Karath would be pasted to a wall in all likelihood.
Bastila is just talking about Revan recovering from being knocked out. Or shes just really dumb because obviously he wouldn't be fully recovered.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Damn, you need some sleep.
Herndon wrote a online Hasbro article for Malak. It is accordingly a "web enhancement" to the KotORPG.Another accolade for Malak, brand new:
"Darth Malak is a straightforward lightsaber combatant. True to his character, his abilities and powers focus on attacking his enemies head on. His high Defense and Attack scores enable him take on strong opponents, and he can increase his damage through Sith Rage when desired."
And as I said, I have no idea what that is. Or if its the slighest bit canon. But I know I'm not taking anything as canon that talks about high defense and attack scores and high level campaigns.
Also that article is ****ing retarded. "Darth Malak ignores the first five points of any kind of damage. Whether this is due to hidden armor linked to his voice mask or the physical result of Sith alchemy is anyone's guess." Or maybe its because he's wearing phucking body armor you zombie. Why the shit would his voice mask be have hidden armor in it. Jesus Christ. Also, "vast resources of mysterious origin"? He the leader of a galactic empire. Gosh, I wonder where he gets his resources, mother****ing Santa maybe???? And Malak was enraged by Revan's death??? He was the one who tried to kill him!
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Of course. However, that doesn't change the fact it is a honor and a feat from the bottom to be compared to the top.
Being mentioned in the same sentence isn't a comparison.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
You *really* underrate Bandon.
Bandon defeated 20 Jedi already.
He's well above a average Jedi.
Revan didn't fight him alone. As I've said many, many times to you.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Malak already has a valid comparison to Kun, so it doesn't matter. 😉
No, he doesn't.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Because you already visited 4 worlds and are only at "so-and-so strength." I don't see Revan becoming 2x his strength from Leviathan that quickly. He probably eventually became that on Dromaund Kaas, but not on the Star Forge.
Why the hell not? Knowing who he really is could have significantly increased his learning rate, since he was really just relearning everything.
If Revan has only just awoken from unconsciousness, then he wouldn't have been using Force Heal at all up to that point. I'm pretty sure they couldn't use the Force at all or Karath would be pasted to a wall in all likelihood.Bastila is just talking about Revan recovering from being knocked out. Or shes just really dumb because obviously he wouldn't be fully recovered.
And as I said, I have no idea what that is. Or if its the slighest bit canon. But I know I'm not taking anything as canon that talks about high defense and attack scores and high level campaigns.
He the leader of a galactic empire. Gosh, I wonder where he gets his resources, mother****ing Santa maybe???? And Malak was enraged by Revan's death??? He was the one who tried to kill him!
Revan didn't fight him alone. As I've said many, many times to you.
Being mentioned in the same sentence isn't a comparison.
Why the hell not? Knowing who he really is could have significantly increased his learning rate, since he was really just relearning everything.
DAMN. Guess what I found?
Yep. Another accolade. A huge baby too.
"The Star Wars universe has created some truly vile dark side villains. Have you ever wondered what would happen if the most powerful Sith Lords duked it out for supremacy of the galaxy?"
It it, they are referring to Darth Revan, Darth Caedus, and Darth Sidious. 😄
EDIT: Does this hypothetically mean they are the best 3 Sith in the mythos? 😖
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Perhaps she healed him? Or he healed himself instinctively? No clue, but by the context she is referring to him being tortured.
I really doubt they could use to Force. Doesn't Saul actually say they can't?
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Like I said, it's an addition to the KotORPG, which is canon.
No, it's not.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Nah, you don't understand.
The article is written in a limited view for it is released before the game came out, hence why it has the same knowledge as someone like Vandar. In fact, Vandar claims Malak was enraged by Revan's death as well before he finds out the truth. 😉
Ok, so it's completely non-canon then? Thanks for clearing that up.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Revan killed him, that much is canon.
There were three Sith, and three heroes. One for each, Revan took Bandon.
And I killed him as well in the game, after Zalbaar had beaten him down to 10 health. Just because Revan got the killing blow, that doesn't mean anything. It was a group fight. Theres no indication they paired up.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
They are being compared together, not to one another.
So as I said, they weren't being compared.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
According to the characters, Revan didn't surpass/equal to his former self until he beat Bastila. Before that, everyone laughs at him and tells him he's a shell of his former self. After that, they say he can beat Malak. It's kind of silly actually.
I don't care what the characters say. How would they even know? Only two of them are Jedi and Juhani barely speaks and Jolee is intentionally cryptic and unhelpful. Also maybe they laugh because Malak had literally just kicked his ass.
I can't even remember what the point of this is. The fact remains that Revan>>>>>>>>>Malak.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
DAMN. Guess what I found?
Yep. Another accolade. A huge baby too.
"The Star Wars universe has created some truly vile dark side villains. Have you ever wondered what would happen if the most powerful Sith Lords duked it out for supremacy of the galaxy?"
It it, they are referring to Darth Revan, Darth Caedus, and Darth Sidious. 😄
EDIT: Does this hypothetically mean they are the best 3 Sith in the mythos? 😖
Your fanboyism is actually getting a little irritating now.
What source is this though?