Loki vs Sauron

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
YouTube video

>applying no limits fallacy
>suggests Loki can resist his tk is laughable
>applying no limits fallacys in every argument.
>again ignoring movie feats

Owned again.

And that is better than I remember it being still flinging around Gandalf does not make him some ultimate TK power.

His shadow attack that caused the bridge to collapse is a much better attack. I'm still not totally convinced that is enough to put Loki down but it is a much better start then what you've given so far.

Originally posted by Newjak
Finally you've posted an actual feat!!!!!!!

And that is better than I remember it being still flinging around Gandalf does not make him some ultimate TK power.

His shadow attack that caused the bridge to collapse is a much better attack. I'm still not totally convinced that is enough to put Loki down but it is a much better start then what you've given so far.

I never said "ultimate TK power"

I said takes his staff, TK's him down then beats him silly with magic and the mace.

He has more then enough power on mulitple levels between TK, Dark Magic based attacks and physical attacks to win.

Loki does not stand a chance.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
I never said "ultimate TK power"

I said takes his staff, TK's him down then beats him silly with magic and the mace.

He has more then enough power on mulitple levels between TK, Dark Magic based attacks and physical attacks to win.

Loki does not stand a chance.

Also I have serious doubts that Sauron can put down Loki when he can survive things like this

YouTube video

Yes it is in Spanish but all you need to see is the Bifrost explosion. That is objectively a more powerful attack than what Sauron showed in the video you posted. Loki survived it point blank range.

Doesn't matter, he has no way to resist being held down by TK and Sauron having time to beat him silly with magic and his mace. Name on instance of a person resisting a TK pull from anyone in any movie. He gets his staff yanked.

TK wins

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
I never said "ultimate TK power"

I said takes his staff, TK's him down then beats him silly with magic and the mace.

He has more then enough power on mulitple levels between TK, Dark Magic based attacks and physical attacks to win.

Loki does not stand a chance.

Don't forget his telepathic attacks as well. He was mind f***ing Pippin and effortlessly KO'ed Aragorn through the palantir.

Originally posted by ares834
Don't forget his telepathic attacks as well. He was mind f***ing Pippin and effortlessly KO'ed Aragorn through the palantir.

He would find fck him also😂

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Doesn't matter, he has no way to resist being held down by TK and Sauron having time to beat him silly with magic and his mace. Name on instance of a person resisting a TK pull from anyone in any movie. He gets his staff yanked.

TK wins

You want to talk no limits fallacy and that is the line of thinking you want to go with? TK always works.

Originally posted by Newjak
Unless Loki is you know Strong enough to resist the TK holding down or strong enough to keep the the force of the TK from forcing the staff out of his hand.

You want to talk no limits fallacy and that is the line of thinking you want to go with? TK always works.

Sauron wins via TK, and TP.

I know you refuse to yield but you lost.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Sauron wins via TK, and TP.

I know you refuse to yield but you lost.

Also I would be worried about Sauron's TP if Loki was holding the palantir.

Of course Loki does have the mind gem, the thing that allows his mind to talk across the galaxy, in his staff so probably a moot point anyways.

Originally posted by Newjak
Except you have not proven Sauron's TK is strong enough to hold off Loki's strength.

Also I would be worried about Sauron's TP if Loki was holding the palantir.

Of course Loki does have the mind gem, the thing that allows his mind to talk across the galaxy, in his staff so probably a moot point anyways.

Nope.

Pins him against the ground then proceeds to mind rape, bash him with the mace, and hit him with all his dark magic.

Ur argument "Loki can't be beat!"

LOL

Originally posted by Newjak
Also I would be worried about Sauron's TP if Loki was holding the palantir.

Good point. It's not as if Sauron's corrupting mental influence is pretty much the whole point of the trilogy. 👆

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Nope.

You've only shown a feat this entire match. I've shown Loki objectively taking a blast that was tougher than the one you posted.

You've shown Sauron TKing Gandalf who by far weaker than Loki and are trying to say that automatically means Sauron can TK Loki just as easily.

You sure you don't want to try something called actual evidence to prove your point? I mean you started to do so much better when you posted on the feat.

Doesn't matter.

You lost.

Keep antagonizing, cause you good at it😂

Let me guess Loki is heavier then Gandalf so now Sauron cant TK Loki😂

Originally posted by ares834
Good point. It's not as if Sauron's corrupting mental influence is pretty much the whole point of the trilogy. 👆

Originally posted by Newjak
And all his best TP feats are through devices that linked directly to his power like the palantir and the ring 👆

And? He has the ring here dummy.. You are not gaining any traction here.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Doesn't matter.

You lost.

Keep antagonizing, cause you good at it😂

And now you've gone back to just baseless claims again.

Originally posted by Newjak
And all his best TP feats are through devices that linked directly to his power like the palantir and the ring 👆

So the palantir, according to you, boosts his TP powers. Got any evidence for that?

Originally posted by Newjak
You know declaring yourself the victor does not make you so.

And now you've gone back to just baseless claims again.

Like you did..

"Because he didn't TK someone exactly Loki in LOTR, he can't do in this fight"

🙄

U sound really butthurt you cant win this one..

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
And? He has the ring here dummy.. You are not gaining any traction here.

Secondly it would be nice to see how his TP works when people aren't using items that tie directly to his mind.

Originally posted by ares834
So the palantir, according to you, boosts his TP powers. Got any evidence for that?

He's got zero evidence for anything at this point.