Originally posted by Newjak
Traction from what? First off mind messing a human and a hobbit is not the same as messing with the Mind of Loki who is in possession of the Mind Gem.Secondly it would be nice to see how his TP works when people aren't using items that tie directly to his mind.
Not really.
Originally posted by Time ImmemorialI've explained Loki is stronger than anyone Sauron has TKed. Now you have to prove that Sauron's TK is strong enough to hold someone that strong down.
Like you did.."Because he didn't TK someone exactly Loki in LOTR, he can't do in this fight"
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U sound really butthurt you cant win this one..
Otherwise you are applying a no limits fallacy to Sauron's TK power.
Originally posted by ares834I did not say it boosted it. I said he has only been seen using it through items that are directly related to him. It would be nice to see him use TP without it.
So the palantir, according to you, boosts his TP powers. Got any evidence for that?
And once again Loki has the Mind Gem in this fight so I think it is a moot point.
Originally posted by Newjak
By that logic what prevents Loki from you know taking over Sauron since Sauron has never shown TP defense?
Well first Sauron's mental powers come from the strength of his own will not that of a stone. Secondly, an argument could be made that the stone could control him. Of course that requires Loki to tap him on the chest and Sauron's armor may very well protect him like Stark's generator did.
Originally posted by Time ImmemorialYes I have. Sauron has only TKed Gandalf. Loki is much stronger based on feats.
You didn't.
For instance in the same video you posted Gandalf gets nocked down by an Orc, a strong Orc I'll give you that. Loki treated Cap, who makes that Orc look a baby, like a child in their fight.
Therefore Loki is much stronger than Gandalf. So now prove that Sauron's TK is better to prove he can match Loki's strength.
Originally posted by ares834The mind gem can effect people without touching them, like it did to the Avengers when they argued.
Well first Sauron's mental powers come from the strength of his own will not that of a stone. Secondly, an argument could be made that the stone could control him. Of course that requires Loki to tap him on the chest and Sauron's armor may very well protect him like Stark's generator did.
Next you say the Mind Gem can not provide Loki with TP protection because it hasn't shown but now Sauron has TP protection because he has never shown it?
Originally posted by Newjak
Yes I have. Sauron has only TKed Gandalf. Loki is much stronger based on feats.For instance in the same video you posted Gandalf gets nocked down by an Orc, a strong Orc I'll give you that. Loki treated Cap, who makes that Orc look a baby, like a child in their fight.
Therefore Loki is much stronger than Gandalf. So now prove that Sauron's TK is better to prove he can match Loki's strength.
>Implying physical force is the same as telekenisis 😆 😆 😆
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Going by on screwn feats Thor's hammer has better feats then the mace.But going by Saurons mace vs Loki's staff. He was wiping the floor with an Army and would have kept doing so besides pis/cis.
New jack is having a problem understanding that Sauron is above Loki in Magic and strength though.
Wait WUT? When in the movie did it even mention his mace was magical or could do anything magical ? Both you and relentless keep saying this and where is that part in the movies. Shoot I'd like to see you post the narration in the The HObbit saying that or LOTR