Palpatine & Vitiate vs Luke & Yoda

Originally posted by psmith81992
Huh?

The new guides put Sidious > Yoda.

WHERE

lol @ caps lock

The newly-released Ultimate Guide.

Though Yoda is a tough combatant, the Emperor uses his Sith powers to release lightning bolts and hurl floating platforms at his foe. Ultimately the battle proves too much for Yoda, who barely escapes and is whisked away to safety by Senator Bail Organa

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Though Yoda is a tough combatant, the Emperor uses his Sith powers to release lightning bolts and hurl floating platforms at his foe. Ultimately the battle proves too much for Yoda, who barely escapes and is whisked away to safety by Senator Bail Organa

Wow that's pretty cool.

How does this overwrite the movie exactly? And being "too much for Yoda" doesn't mean he's more powerful.

Interesting. And what do you suggest it means?

It means that the battle was too much for him. They could be equals, Sidious could gain the upper hand, etc. Basically, what you saw in the movie. When Yoda fell off the platform "circumstances", the battle WAS too much for him.

Seems pretty straightforward to me.

The battle was too much for Yoda given that the person he was waging it with was Sidious. Even if that weren't true, the fight put up by Yoda wasn't too much for Sidious, so this is besides the point.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Seems pretty straightforward to me.

In last year's NBA finals, Kawhi Leonard proved too much for Lebron James. Using your liberal interpretation (confirmation bias), Kawi Leonard is superior to Lebron James.

Hmm.. was Kawhi Leonard overwhelming Lebron with his lightning and superior TK as well?

Originally posted by Sinious
Hmm.. was Kawhi Leonard overwhelming Lebron with his lightning and superior TK as well?

He was overwhelming him with his skill. He outplayed him for 5 games. Once again, your liberal interpretation allows for Leonard>Lebron arguments.

'confirmation bias' 😂

Beefy, you have no less of an established 'agenda' on this subject than anyone else here. Calm down.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Seems pretty straightforward to me.

Beefy, you have no less of an established 'agenda' on this subject than anyone else here. Calm down.

Originally posted by psmith81992
I seem to be very calm. Normally when you tell others to calm down, you're projecting. And seeing as how I care little about Sidious compared to Yoda, and even less about Yoda, you don't really have a point 😂

Beefy, calm down. Sheev is important enough to you to be a frequent topic of conversation for years and years in a number of debates and arguments with a wide number of other people. 😂

mhm. My point stands 👆

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Beefy, calm down.

Originally posted by psmith81992
He was overwhelming him with his skill. He outplayed him for 5 games. Once again, your liberal interpretation allows for Leonard>Lebron arguments.

Except in sports, individuals' performances can vary a lot more than it does in SW Universe(unless there are circumstantial dynamics going on) and Sidious has better feats than Yoda so its not really surprising to see him lose where in your example, Lebron's inferiority was surprising(assuming thats the case cause I don't watch that stuff) which is why your example is irrelevant.

They battled, they were close in both power and skill and one side ended up being on the winning side of that stalemate which is quite natural since he was on the offensive throughout the whole force interchange even though Yoda is the one who came to him to kill him. Your lame comparison of the fight to NBA doesn't really refute any arguments here.

Originally posted by psmith81992
mhm. My point stands 👆

Not really, no.

xcept in sports, individuals' performances can vary a lot more than it does in SW Universe(unless there are circumstantial dynamics going on) and Sidious has better feats than Yoda so its not really surprising to see him lose where in your example, Lebron's inferiority was surprising(assuming thats the case cause I don't watch that stuff) which is why your example is irrelevant.

They battled, they were close in both power and skill and one side ended up being on the winning side of that stalemate which is quite natural since he was on the offensive throughout the whole force interchange even though Yoda is the one who came to him to kill him. Your lame comparison of the fight to NBA doesn't really refute any arguments here.