Originally posted by operator616You'll notice that when Zop quotes my posts he literally doesn't respond to this particular point and only replies to irrelevat ones. Which is why i decided not to respond back, because i know that no matter how many times i repeat my point he'll keep avoiding it.
Red herring at its best, basically.
Originally posted by Surtur
So just out of curiosity, Reed survived a big bang based on his own innate power..how? It sounds weird for Marvel to have him tank such a blast with no real explanation as to how he managed to do it.Also I would think there is a vast different between the big bang of a single universe and that of a multiverse.
Rick was there. At ground zero during the Big Bang.
Rick ended up back in the re-created Microverse once it was over.
Strange and Mordo were both there, and both witnessed Sise-Neg the Big Bang.
Strange and Mordo even rode the Big Bang to their point in history as the Big Bang created.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Lucifer was also created to shape the power he needed from his brother. That's his function so it isn't impressive since that's what he's made to do and it requires his brothers power to even do so. His brother is far more powerful and yet he was defeated by someone with far less power showing durability that doesn't hold a candle to the power he contains in demiurgic capacity.
Why would his function diminish his power in any way?
What? Show me one single hint that Michael is superior to Lucifer. They are regarded as equals most of the times, and if anything, Lucifer has the edge. Mike Carey himself said that Lucifer is second only to God in a letter's page.
http://i.imgur.com/0xHvWmQ.jpg?1
And the Sandman series outright mentions that Lucifer is the most powerful of all angels.
http://i.imgur.com/Z2tWSZy.jpg?1
Originally posted by zopzop
I'll go with what God called Her creation : a universe. Thanks for playing.
You're either purposely avoiding my point for the millionth time or you don't seem to know what you're talking about.
You realize that im not talking about what Lucifer created in #13 nor what Elaine created at the end of the series. Im talking about the original reality, the one before issue #13, and before all the events of the Lucifer series. The original vertigo multiverse that was created by Lucifer and Michael.
Really, what's so hard to understand here?
Originally posted by SquallXI stated facts. Lucifer was created for that purpose. He was also given infinite will so he didn't work on anything on his own he was just given these talents unlike Thanos whose experiences shaped him not his daddy.
He's worked up because you use bullshit to back you're claims, while he uses actual facts presented in the comics to back his claims.
Originally posted by zopzop
So then you agree with Quan and I regarding the Vertigoverse God. Good.
Take out any usual DC supporter here out of the conversation, going strictly from an un bias opinion such as Leo's or 616's or Squall's destroys your marvel fanboy observations out of the water. I already called you out for trolling and was agreed you were/are.👆
Originally posted by operator616
You're either purposely avoiding my point for the millionth time or you don't seem to know what you're talking about.You realize that im not talking about what Lucifer created in #13 nor what Elaine created at the end of the series. Im talking about the original reality, the one before issue #13, and before all the events of the Lucifer series. The original vertigo multiverse that was created by Lucifer and Michael.
Really, what's so hard to understand here?
That must have been one hell of a merger if three supposed multiverses were crunched down into a single universe.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I stated facts. Lucifer was created for that purpose. He was also given infinite will so he didn't work on anything on his own he was just given these talents unlike Thanos whose experiences shaped him not his daddy.
You're so ****ing pathetic it's not even funny.
Who gives a **** if he was born with those powers. Do we ***** that Kal, Thor, Diana or even ****ing Thanos himself was born with there powers? No, we ****ing don't!
The shits Lucifer did in the end wasn't because he just felt like doing them, but because he chose to free himself from the predestent destiny that was forced upon himself without his input. He felt that if humans had a choice to choose, why not him. That was Lucifers true motives.
He sure as hell didn't rebel, because he was to much of a pussy to court a chick. It was so bad that same chick even refused him.
Hell, didn't we learned that Thanos was created for the sole purpose of fixing a flaw in the damn Universe?
What's more funny is, the same shit you're blaming Lucifer off, can also applied to ****ing Thanos.
Don't just read something next time, understands it so you won't come off as an idiot.
Originally posted by zopzop
The fact that the three realities, when merged, were only referred to as a SINGLE UNIVERSE.That must have been one hell of a merger if three supposed multiverses were crunched down into a single universe.
Going by your logic, we might as well regard those realities as being 1/3 of a universe each one. When merged together, they make a single complete universe. 😂
Because that's exactly what you're implying. And we both know that it's complete nonsense. if three realities can be merged into one, why can't multiverses be merged into one? Your basis for it being a single universe is literally nothing.
While also ignoring all of the below, of course.
Originally posted by operator616Other Vertigo comics like Sandman #4, #23, #54 #66, #67, Absolute Sandman, Hellblazer #249, Doom Patrol #29, Hunter Age of Magic #3 have all shown alternate realities proving the existence of the multiverse.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Take out any usual DC supporter here out of the conversation, going strictly from an un bias opinion such as Leo's or 616's or Squall's destroys your marvel fanboy observations out of the water. I already called you out for trolling and was agreed you were/are.👆
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Originally posted by leonidas
😂 aww, look how cute he is jumping in as zop's white knight. sure he must be thrilled to have you. 👆 anyway, this is very old and tiresome between zop and i and others, and this sh!t drags down every vertigo thread, every time. about time it ended.
I have no allegiance to Zop you moron. I stated my opinion, you dropped load on the floor simply because I said I follow his line of thinking. You keep crying about shit being tiresome. If that's the case, bow out and stop you spineless whining.
