Black Lives Matter vs All Lives Matter

Originally posted by Bardock42
We literally went through this before...do you really not know how statistics work?

Yep. That's right, boy. We've been through ALL of this before, dumbass. And you anti-gun people never gave a single goddamn reason to justify taking away our 2nd amendment right to bear arms. You're all just repeating the same stupid shit over again. Well, I"m not going to waste my time repeating EVERY SINGLE ****ing THING I SAID in the other thread to retards who forgot or think they're going to convince those of us who would rather die than give up our second amendement right to surrender our guns without a fight. Bump the old ****ing thread for Christ sake and re-read instead of derailing this thread, moron.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Are you aware people are going to kill each other regardless?

You think banning guns is going to do anything?

The criminals will still have them.

Its preposterous to think "Oh ban guns and we have Utopia"

YEah, they're all to ****ing stupid to realize that the criminals and terrorists sure as HEll won't be surrendering their guns like everybody else (all the lsaw-abiding citizens) would.

Originally posted by Star428
What people don't realize or just keep ignoring is the fact that an EMP attack would render our entire military practically useless. All it would take is a single nuke detontated at just the right point in the atmosphere above our country and we would all be sent back to the dark ages for many months. Maybe even years. And Obama has done virtually nothing to strengthen our country's outdated power grid from such an attack. THat is the only way for any country on Earth to have any chance of defeating the U.S. without suffering major casualties themselves. After an EMP attack disabled us we would be extremely vulnerable to invasion from just about anyone.

People keep talking about how badass our military is but after an EMP attack it would do us no good. Only a fool would attack the U.S. otherwise.

Your military changed back up systems to hardened analogue ones years ago after the Victor Belenko defection.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
You cant get rid of guns. Not in America. Sorry, its just not going to happen. Why do you want to get rid of them anyways? What is it going to change for you, you just said you may never even see it happen in your lifetime, so why do you care? Do you care about all the people that die every .66 seconds around the world. The time it took me to write this, 100 people just died. You are not batting an eyelash or shedding a tear.

Agreed. All of these libs are just talking out their ass with no authority to take away our guns. IT's not gonna happen . If the government tries, then they're breaking the goddamn law and Americans will fight back and tons of lives (both civilians and military will be lost) in the process. Only way something like that is going top happen is if martial lawis declared which, tbh, is probably going to happen in near future.

Originally posted by jaden101
Your military changed back up systems to hardened analogue ones years ago after the Victor Belenko defection.

LOL. No. I've posted links before that showed our infrastructure is still extremely susceptible to an EMP strike.

We actually have zero defense against an EMP on a massive scale. Some power grids might survive depending on area of impact, put peoples homes, cars, electronics, jet, trains, trucks, power plants will be gone.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Wont happen, sorry. Civil war would ensue. You really want to see a war over guns?

We wont be fighting over slaves, this time it will be people vs government, and it would not be pretty.

Besides CA and a few states in NE, 95% of America, want guns. Including the criminals.

What he doesn't realize is that the first ten amendments are called the Bill of Rights. IT's against the law to change ANY of them. They are all unalienable rights. Meaning they can NEVER be taken away. PERIOD. CASE ****ing CLOSED. I've said this so many times before. We are a republic. Meaning our country is governed by LAW (the Constitution). If we actually were a democracy, then they could vote to amend the BIll of Rights. BUt we're NOT. Never have been. Never will be. Not without a fight and a lot of Americans dying. Benjamin Franklin said to a woman that they gave us a REPUBLIC. IF WE CAN KEEP IT. YOu can bet your ass that if the government starts talking about banning the second amendment that we will fight for it. IF the government talks about doing it, then they're breaking the goddamn law. Then those of us who are true Americans know that we will have no choice but to rise up against the government and reclaim our country from them. Or at least die trying.

They think saying "the second amendment can be overturned" enough in a dead movie will make it come true.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
We actually have zero defense against an EMP on a massive scale. Some power grids might survive depending on area of impact, put peoples homes, cars, electronics, jet, trains, trucks, power plants will be gone.

More importantly, our military will be reduced to fighting with weapons like they did 300-400 years ago.

Originally posted by Star428
LOL. No. I've posted links before that showed our infrastructure is still extremely susceptible to an EMP strike.

That's not what you said though. You said your military. Not infrastructure.

Originally posted by jaden101
That's not what you said though. You said your military. Not infrastructure.

They're both still vulnerable.

Wow, this thread went nowhere fast.

Originally posted by Bentley
Wow, this thread went nowhere fast.

I didn't know we resolved anything here, after all this is a ongoing discussion. Maybe if you take those toys soldiers off your profile, that might help.

Bentley: Well, it didn't have to if some idiot didn't have to make the inflammatory comment "I don't understand pro-gun people. I don't care if it's right or not it's stupid". LOL. What did you seriously think was going to happen after a stupid statement like that was made? Those are fighting words to people who take their second amendment right to bear arms seriously. I replied to him with a very similar statement thrown right back at him and then I would've dropped it. BUt, of course, then you had to come in with your silly statement to further irritate me (as I"m one of the pro-gun people) and you think I would just stay silent? You don't know me very well at all.

Originally posted by Star428
Bentley: Well, it didn't have to if some idiot didn't have to make the inflammatory comment "I don't understand pro-gun people. I don't care if it's right or not it's stupid". LOL. What did you seriously think was going to happen after a stupid statement like that was made? Those are fighting words to people who take their second amendment right to bear arms seriously. I replied to him with a very similar statement thrown right back at him and then I would've dropped it. BUt, of course, then you come in with your silly statement to further irritate me (as I"m one of the pro-gun people) and you think I would just stay silent? You don't know me very well at all.

It still surprises me of how easy these things go off, chain reaction style.

We did, we had people say "oh and what if they overturn the second amendment, idiots like rob then said "what are you going to do?

I guess they never heard of what the bill of rights is.

Ok two things:

First, to TI and Star- your approach to people providing you statistics about things like murder rates here is either a. incredibly dense and unreasonable or b. intentional trolling. I can't really believe you are so shockingly stupid for it to be the first, though I think getting caught out in a stubborn streak is part of it- in any case, it is not an acceptable way to conduct debate here.

Bardock gave you a gun murder RATE, not a flat number, so either stating or commenting that the US had a smaller problem because it was larger is logical ineptitude of the most staggering degree.

Put some damn effort into your participation here and don't just use it as a platform for your utterly meaningless angry political ranting. You can also cut it out on the aggressive tone of insults to people just because they are making actual arguments.

And if someone does make a pretty dumb one-off throwaway line- just ignore it. It's not an excuse to go mental in the threads.

Secondly- back to topic here or don't post.

LOL. Trolling. Nice try. No, I don't doubt those statistics. That's not what I was getting upset about. You would see that if you read my posts more carefully.

I read them carefully. Your meaning is very clear and you approving of TI's post is as unambiguous as it gets, so don't try and play that game with me. Now as I said, get back on topic.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Ok two things:

First, to TI and Star- your approach to people providing you statistics about things like murder rates here is either a. incredibly dense and unreasonable or b. intentional trolling. I can't really believe you are so shockingly stupid for it to be the first, though I think getting caught out in a stubborn streak is part of it- in any case, it is not an acceptable way to conduct debate here.

Bardock gave you a gun murder RATE, not a flat number, so either stating or commenting that the US had a smaller problem because it was larger is logical ineptitude of the most staggering degree.

Put some damn effort into your participation here and don't just use it as a platform for your utterly meaningless angry political ranting. You can also cut it out on the aggressive tone of insults to people just because they are making actual arguments.

And if someone does make a pretty dumb one-off throwaway line- just ignore it. It's not an excuse to go mental in the threads.

Secondly- back to topic here or don't post.

I admitted a few pages ago I didn't know about that statistics thing, so no I was not trolling bro. I am always fine here admitted when I am wrong, or not knowing something.