One Solution to America's Black Crime problem.

Originally posted by Newjak
You see this right here. The Blacks are best suited. You've already labeled a group as them before you even offer any suggestions. I think that fundamentally changes the conversation from the start.

They are a group of vastly different people. The solutions for one community will not be the same for another. We need to work together as Americans and not make it a us and them type scenario. I think that hurts more than helps. They are human beings and we should work together as human beings to identify problems.

I think the best solution is bettering education and job opportunities in these communities.

Which is a bit funny, I had also put in white communities but I deleted it to simply stay on a more focused topic which was based on "black crime."

Watch that youtube video posted above with Jeffry Brown as the speaker, I spent the 18 minutes listening to it.

Of course you would think that is the best solution but that means so little to the communities themselves. Until the communities work together to create the changes needed there are no reforms that can be put in place without making said communities feel put upon or the reforms ignored.

Changes required to really fix communities come from the bottom up, not top down. Many problems are identified already it just takes effort and caring to create true lasting change.

Poverty is the real villian here not black or white per say.

I agree poverty is a extremely major problem in these areas. And it is the major problem imo. Education being second.

I think there is an extremely bad mindset with bottom up being the only solution. It puts the onus on them to fix the problems even if they do not have the means to do so. Can it work yes but it can make an already hard situation harder.

For instance if two people crash on a desert island and one has a large pack of survival gear, rations, and modern equipment and the other has nothing. You could say it is the job of the resourceless person to pull themselves up and survive their problem but that is unlikely given the resources and circumstances afforded to that individual.

I like how people act like they care about black problems.

Unless you are black you don't give a damn.

eSJW's abound.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
I like how people act like they care about black problems.

Unless you are black you don't give a damn.

eSJW's abound.

Yes you can. I can care about justice inequality based on race because ultimately it is effecting a large group of people negatively.

You type here, what do you do in real life to represent any of what you supposedly stand for here?

Do you give to black causes or march with them on the streets??

I have a black friend.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
I have a black friend.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
I have a black friend.

This actually counts😂

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
You type here, what do you do in real life to represent any of what you supposedly stand for here?

Do you give to black causes or march with them on the streets??

You're also making an illogical jump here. That in order to feel for someone else's problem you must try to fix it. If you do not try to fix it than you obviously don't really care.

This is an untrue statement and impossible because you can feel for many different people but that doesn't mean you can help all of them. So you're using an impossible standard to judge people off of to try and discredit what they are saying.

You just said previously that asking blacks to fix their own problem was unreasonable now you are back pedaling.

Originally posted by Newjak
I agree poverty is a extremely major problem in these areas. And it is the major problem imo. Education being second.

I think there is an extremely bad mindset with bottom up being the only solution. It puts the onus on them to fix the problems even if they do not have the means to do so. Can it work yes but it can make an already hard situation harder.

So just to be clear which problems do you find are the most major? Police brutality or poverty and a lack of education? If someone came up to you and said "you are in charge of trying to fix this community, but for the next few years you can focus on either police brutality or education/poverty". Which do you choose?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
I like how people act like they care about black problems.

Unless you are black you don't give a damn.

eSJW's abound.

Originally posted by Surtur
So just to be clear which problems do you find are the most major? Police brutality or poverty and a lack of education? If someone came up to you and said "you are in charge of trying to fix this community, but for the next few years you can focus on either police brutality or education/poverty". Which do you choose?

And to clarify justice inequality isn't just police brutality. It also incorporates things like more severe punishments for similar crimes. Higher chances of being pulled over and ticketed.

And the reason I think this is a problem. When you are continuously sending a large group of people into a prison system that is almost designed for high retention and a system that makes life harder on convicts in general even for minor crimes. I think that can lead to a vicious cycle that can disrupt educational and economic growth. It can also create an negative atmosphere of distrust and violence among communities which can sour any chance of help.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
You just said previously that asking blacks to fix their own problem was unreasonable now you are back pedaling.

Thirdly where in the previous post did I change my stances on those?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Racist white guy trying to act like all other white people are racist. Cool.

Lol nice fail. I have plenty of black friends that don't need online white SJW's fighting for them on a dead movie forum.

If I took a picture of all the people here and showed them to any of my friends that are black they would laugh. First off because most of the people here are pasty white Caucasians wearing glasses or Jedi robes. I bet they would not stop laughing either. I notice that the black people here like Mindset and a few others actually do just laugh at these stupid racial threads. And good on them for it, cause it's a joke. It's even funnier to watch a bunch of nerd white kids argue about black problems. What a joke😂

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
If I took a picture of all the people here and showed them to any of my friends that are black they would laugh. First off because most of the people here are pasty white Caucasians wearing glasses or Jedi robes. I bet they would not stop laughing either. I notice that the black people here like Mindset and a few others actually do just laugh at these stupid racial threads. And good on them for it, cause it's a joke. It's even funnier to watch a bunch of nerd white kids argue about black problems. What a joke😂

What I do and continue to correct you on is statistical anomalies in our country. A black person is more likely to receive harsher punishments than their white counterparts for similar crimes. This is not a opinion this fact. Statistically the average black person is more likely to be shot by an officer than a white person. This is fact. Black people are more likely to be pulled over and ticketed. Studies showing that even having a black sounding name can get you disqualified for a job are real.

But please continue to tell us how your friends would laugh at us for looking at statistical data. Your attempts to attack us are pathetic.

So you prove your point with statistical data then what? What change did you instill beyond this forum?

Btw you have never corrected me on anything, FYI.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
So you prove your point with statistical data then what? What change did you instill beyond this forum?

Read below for your answer and the silly argument you keep trying to make.

Originally posted by Newjak
At the very least I acknowledge it at a problem. I also build educational software that benefits people from poorer areas so there is that as well. I also try to treat each and every person as a person.

You're also making an illogical jump here. That in order to feel for someone else's problem you must try to fix it. If you do not try to fix it than you obviously don't really care.

This is an untrue statement and impossible because you can feel for many different people but that doesn't mean you can help all of them. So you're using an impossible standard to judge people off of to try and discredit what they are saying.

That's Great you make software for the poor. And treat every person with dignity. But that doesn't make you any better then anyone else as far as racial issues. But I doubt you have these type of etalks with them because they would prolly look at you like you were crazy.