One Solution to America's Black Crime problem.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
That's Great you make software for the poor. And treat every person with dignity. But that doesn't make you any better then anyone else as far as racial issues. But I doubt you have these type of etalks with them because they would prolly look at you like you were crazy.

Even if I didn't do anything about does that somehow negate the data. At the very least I can recognize justice inequality exists and I feel bad for the people that are on the negative end of it.

The fact that you believe that if someone feels for another person's problem that person must always do something or they are discredited is asinine. It's an impossible and untrue standard to live up to.

You can feel sorry for someone and not make it your life goal to change that problem. Heck a big step in solving a problem is at least realizing there is a problem effecting another human being.

And I'm not saying I'm better than anyone. I am just saying there is a problem and I feel bad for the people that have to deal with that problem. And I recognize we need to make solutions to solve this problem.

Originally posted by Newjak
I think you skipped over the part that where I try to explain to you that you can recognize a problem and feel for that problem without having to do anything about it.

Exactly. It's a weird concept to think that you can't see something like rape and/or child-molestation as being problems unless you're personally choking out rapist.

Acknowledging that there is a problem or injustice is the first step to fixing said problem.

You do realize that the media profits off controversy.

That politicians divide people for re election and campaign contributions.

That police are trying to keep themselves alive. While enforcing the corrupt politicians laws.

And the people are down here....

Yet the people still look up to politians for lies and the media to make their opinion up for them.

Rinse and repeat, this is life and how it will always be.

Yet no one can figure it this out. And if you do, your called a conspiracy theorist for stating the obvious.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
You do realize that the media profits off controversy.

That politicians divide people for re election and campaign contributions.

That police are trying to keep themselves alive. While enforcing the corrupt politicians laws.

And the people are down here....

Yet the people still look up to politiams for lies and the media to make their opinion up for them.

Rinse and repeat, this is life and how it will always be.

Yet no one can figure it this out. And if you do, your called a conspiracy theorist for stating the obvious.

How does it relate to seeing a problem and saying it needs fixed?

Statistics made by people with an agenda are a lie.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Statistics made by people with an agenda are a lie.

Okay TI what are the real stats?

I don't know what's real anymore tbh.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
I don't know what's real anymore tbh.

Get mad about it too

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
I like how people act like they care about black problems.

Unless you are black you don't give a damn.

eSJW's abound.

What about someone like me who is white, but lives in a city where you see all the violence every day committed by black gang members and all that. You get sick of people turning your city into a shit hole, but only truly making waves about the cops.

At least that is how it is for me, I'm sure some people who don't live in cities directly effected by this feel differently. I guess hearing about something versus seeing it makes all the difference.

I always knew you lived in Chicago so I understand and accept your relevance and you are always on point and don't have an ego about anything. You are probbably one of my favorite posters here.

newjack ran off.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
newjack ran off.

It is pointless to continue a conversation with you.

Good I agree it is pointless, so don't respond to me anymore and I won't respond to you.

Originally posted by Surtur
So just to be clear you just said the reason blacks murder so many other blacks is rooted in racism. Are white people taking control of their minds and forcing them to kill? That is the only way racism is to blame. Or did you mean the blacks are being racist against other blacks?

I had no idea racism can only come from white people. Thanks for enlightening me (this is sarcasm)!

Originally posted by Surtur
You also hit the nail on the head about political correctness. Being PC is counterproductive if you actually ignore things in favor of it. If a community has several legit problems caused by the community then whether they are black or white or purple or Kryptonian..those problems need to be pointed out.

I fully agree with this.

Originally posted by Q99
Now, let's see, what's the best way to fix a shitty neighborhood? Ah, that's right, 'put a lot of non-corrupt police who talk with the locals and earn their trust.'

This is exactly on point with my opening post. This is exactly what that minister did: just talked to and earned the trust of the young black men (who were the primary culprits for violent crime). Earning the trust of the police and just talking to the black men is factually proven to reduce violent crime.

Also, I think religion had a bit to do with that minister's success. By giving them a spiritual reason to stop the violence, he appealed to more than jus the logical part of their minds: he spoke to their hearts.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Good I agree it is pointless, so don't respond to me anymore and I won't respond to you.

So it seems your only goal here in this forum and the cvf is to poke holes in other people's arguments with bias statistics to prop up your own ego. Because other then that you have no real world experience besides "software for the poor."

Do you even meet the poor people?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
So it seems your only goal here in this forum and the cvf is to poke holes in other people's arguments with bias statistics to prop up your own ego.

Like for instance the idea that there is not a statistical bias in the justice system that favors some groups over others.

Who made you God to correct others? Who made your argument infallible? You yourself are not perfect and neither is your opinion based on bias statistics.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
I think this discussion to date has been seriously hurt by the original poster not taking the time to

A) make sure the link he provided in the first thread actually WORKS when clicked

and

B) give a clarifying rebuttal

Q, are you aware that what you are saying would not happen is precisely what DID happen in the case Dadudemon has presented as the topic for this thread?
It doesn't seem so, and your comment in the previous thread I participated in with you suggests that you would be unable to watch what Jeffrey Brown presented his TED Talks audience even if Dadudemon's link DID work, which it doesn't.

Here, perhaps I can help not only you, but Dadudemon as well.
This thread at the very least should have a working thread to Jeffrey Brown' s story, IF it is possible to provide, for it is a story that deserves not only to be told, but one that can actually be listened to by people who want to be helped or inspired:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yeVz0rtXCmw

Thanks for providing a working link. I didn't know it didn't work. I created the OP with my mobile phone. The point was for everyone to read about that minister's story and/or watch the Ted Talk. It was pretty awesome.