Assessing Soa

A former member DarthAnt66 made a wonderful respect thread of Soa: http://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/soa-respect-thread-1712494/

Soa apparently rivals the likes of Yoda and Luke Skywalker in the domain of Telekinesis. Soa is also a master of esoteric powers such as Mind Trap, Teleportation and Floating Meditation. Perhaps more.

Soa's most dangerous Force power and/or talent seems to be Mind Trap; Soa can use this technique to trap the essence of an opponent in a psychic prison for like eternity, rendering the body of the opponent motionless. It's like a one-shot ability.

Mind Trap might be the reason why Soa became a formidable threat to the galaxy at large. This would explain why it was so difficult to imprison him in the first place.

Your thoughts?

Ant's still a member, he's just on a vacation. A long vacation. 😆

Soa should be up there with the highest Force Users, yeah. That the Rakata needed everything to beat him and still couldn't kill him, that he makes the Republic-Empire conflict irrelevant, that he was considered a threat greater than the Republic and is stated to be able to spell "certain doom" for the galaxy if he escaped... all suggest he's a being of almost godlike power.

Soa doesn't rival Luke in TK at all...

Originally posted by SunRazer
Soa doesn't rival Luke in TK at all...

Ugh...TOR....I like the game well enough, but the power of their characters vary so wild. Soa has all this supposed power, yet an army(not armies as suggested, but the quote says it took an army) were able to overpower and lock him away?

Soa isn't the only one either, the Dread Masters were captured by a Republic Commando Force and 1 lone Jedi, yet they had all this great power both collectively and individually.

Yeah. First the Dread Masters are captured by one squad and one Jedi Master.

Then they occupy an entire planet and full squad of Sith forces and full squad of Jedi forces can't do sh*t about them lol.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Ugh...TOR....I like the game well enough, but the power of their characters vary so wild. Soa has all this supposed power, yet an army(not armies as suggested, but the quote says it took an army) were able to overpower and lock him away?

Soa isn't the only one either, the Dread Masters were captured by a Republic Commando Force and 1 lone Jedi, yet they had all this great power both collectively and individually.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Not only that, eight people come in and kill him, and as for the Dread Masters, they share all their power. Fighting one of them is like fighting all of them.

Ya know it just occurred to me, that the army that overpowered Soa would be vastly inferior to any later army in the SW timeline, given that Soa was locked away even before the events of TOR.

Nah, Infinite Empire tech is probably some of the best in SW.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Nah, Infinite Empire tech is probably some of the best in SW.

Which is all fine and dandy, but I wasn't speaking about tech. There are other things to note for an army, other than tech.

The point being here, Soa has all that supposed power yet gets overtaken by an army.

That army was helmed by the entire, galaxy-spanning, Infinite Empire.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Nah, Infinite Empire tech is probably some of the best in SW.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
That army was the entire, galaxy-spanning, Infinite Empire.

It was also all powered by Force Sensitivity, which the Rakata were starting to lose, I believe.

Was it noted as being the entire IE? Because all I'm seeing is that it took an army, then LATER it took the Rataka and the other ancients to imprison, which imply that it wasn't the whole IE.

So I guess sure, to subdue and imprison him took all of the IE. But just to subdue took an army.

Plus then later, this guy gets beaten by a much smaller group?

Granted that they are the galaxy's greatest heroes, but this just points to Soa= Galaxy level being, as nothing more than hype.

I need to go to bed now though, tired.

Isn't Mind Trap tech and not a force power?

Originally posted by ares834
Isn't Mind Trap tech and not a force power?

Was force powered tech, half an half. So not a true Force power yeah, but the tech was powered by the Force.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Ugh...TOR....I like the game well enough, but the power of their characters vary so wild. Soa has all this supposed power, yet an army(not armies as suggested, but the quote says it took an army) were able to overpower and lock him away?

An army of Rakata. Rakata are pretty ****ing nuts, as pointed out in the Respect Thread:

"The Rakata civilization was powerful beyond measure; the threats they sought to contain in this prison transcended anything the Republic is currently prepared to face."

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Plus then later, this guy gets beaten by a much smaller group?

Granted that they are the galaxy's greatest heroes, but this just points to Soa= Galaxy level being, as nothing more than hype.

I need to go to bed now though, tired.

All that proves is that the TOR protags are the ****ing best. Lot'ek was also said to be a galaxy-level threat and they beat him as well.

Yeah Neph, the Rakata have great feats of creating things sure, but their war capabilities? Those never really seemed great, other than the Starforge(which again is just a great big factory). Their ships were just flying blocks with one laser cannon.

So I'm questioning how they managed to even subdue Soa if his power is that great, I don't see why an army would pose any threat to him if the galaxy at the time wasn't all that technologically advanced except for the Rakata.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

Soa apparently rivals the likes of Yoda and Luke Skywalker in the domain of Telekinesis.

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Originally posted by The Ellimist
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You're letting facts get in the way of the PT/OT wank

TOR wank has a more disturbing history of obstructing facts. It's like politics. Neither side is clean (yes, that does mean the PT party as well), but most are really only going to try and expose the corruption of the opposite party.