Originally posted by Nai
Oh, hello. May I interrupt your self-demolition before somebody gets hurt?First: You may want to do your research. The Panzer VII "Maus", the largest Tank ever constructed with its 3x3x10 meters, had a weight of 188 tons. If you compare that to the AT-AT, then the part of the walker above its legs could easily weigh around 600 tons. Add the legs, and you are pretty much guaranteed to hit the 1,000 ton mark.
In fact the people over at Stardestroyer.net came up with much higher results, which means I'm probably giving you a conservative estimate here.
And, mind you, this is steel we're talking about. Not some space-age material that, apparently, easily shrugs off heavy laser fire that is pretty much capable of leveling buildings. Which could be even heavier than that.
You would need pretty big and massive stone statues to match that...
My assessment is grounded in statistics of P.1000 Ratte, which dwarfs Panzer VII Maus in size (at-least in the drawings).
Have a good look:
Futuristic technologies are supposed to reduce weight and make vehicles more efficient. For example, M1A3 Abrams MBT would have superior armor and protective measures then M1A2 Abrams MBT but would be relatively lighter as well. This is based on actual data, not an assumption.
Originally posted by Selenial
Lmao this is what I get for assuming LeGenD's original numbers were actually accurate.I'm finding it difficult to actually see how anyone puts a number on it though. The AT-AT's top half would weigh over 4000 tonnes if it was steel the entire way through, but it's pretty ****ing difficult to tell just how hollow the thing actually is. I mean, it's supposed to be able to carry 40 passengers after all, along with a minimum of five speeder bikes.
It could also be configured to carry 2 deconstructed AT-STs. But here's the interior.
Originally posted by Selenial
Lmao this is what I get for assuming LeGenD's original numbers were actually accurate.I'm finding it difficult to actually see how anyone puts a number on it though. The AT-AT's top half would weigh over 4000 tonnes if it was steel the entire way through, but it's pretty ****ing difficult to tell just how hollow the thing actually is. I mean, it's supposed to be able to carry 40 passengers after all, along with a minimum of five speeder bikes.
Doesn't takes a genius to blow their argument out of water, just common sense and a bit more extensive research.
P.1000 is a considerably larger design then an AT-AT. More importantly, P.1000 is officially estimated to have weighed 1000 tons.
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AT-AT cargo capacity is officially 1 metric ton.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Legend those images are not to scale 😂
P.1000 dimensions:
Length: 35m
Width: 14m
Height: 11m
AT-AT dimensions:
Length: 20m
Width: 4m (Top) / 5m (Bottom)
Height: 22.5m
Too bad for you: P.1000 >> AT-AT in size and your estimation of AT-AT is way off. You should laugh at your own stupidity.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Friend, the AT-AT is more accurately 30m tall (and given that, likely 30m in length) evidenced from how it appears on screen and how ridiculous your diagrams look. 🙁
Here: http://www.starwars.com/news/acme-archives-directs-at-at-specplate-now-available-exclusive-preview
Full image here: http://i64.tinypic.com/16h4t28.jpg
I have scaled the two diagrams in accordance with their specs. And these diagrams are professional works, not mine.
I accept your concession in advance.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDUh I did? And I'm saying that a more accurate height/length is around 30m, going off again how large they appear in the movies and how ridiculous your diagram looks.
My friend, I have checked the official specifications of AT-AT before scaling it.Here: http://www.starwars.com/news/acme-archives-directs-at-at-specplate-now-available-exclusive-preview
Full image here: http://i64.tinypic.com/16h4t28.jpg
I have scaled the two diagrams in accordance with their specs. And these diagrams are professional works, not mine.
I accept your concession in advance.
Funnily enough, official material can and has been inaccurate in this regard. 😉
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Regardless who cares? You are no closer to proving that an AT-AT isn't heavier than some 9 meter statues and a bunch of stones weighing 5-7 tonnes each. 😂
We don't know the material of the statues that Soa lifted and tossed around but they were really large and must have weighed lot more then 5 - 7 tonnes each.
Have a look at the statues in the chamber of The Infernal One:
They are like 30 feet tall each. And made of some kind of stone. I expect them to be around 50 tons in weight each.
For reference, 10 m tall Moai statue named Paro weighs 82 tons.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Uh I did? And I'm saying that a more accurate height/length is around 30m, going off again how large they appear in the movies and how ridiculous your diagram looks.Funnily enough, official material can and has been inaccurate in this regard. 😉
Official specifications of AT-AT have been conveyed to you. Member Zenwolf have provided even more conservative sizes figures.
By the Empire's time, however, large "walkers" dominated ground combat - above all. Standing 22.5 meters high, the long-striding All Terrain Armored Transport - known as AT-AT or simply walker - loomed over the battlefields of the Galactic Civil War like a huge armored version of pachyderm cavalry.
Taken from Star Wars: The Essential Guide to Warfare
The officially known dimensions of AT-AT are following:-
Height = 22.5 m
Length = 20 m
