Originally posted by MS Warehouse
If you're combining all the sith empires, the GE space superiority ceases to exisT.
Originally posted by NephthysWe've gone over this, they so embarrassingly outclassed by the GE when it come to firepower that numbers are largely irrelevant.
Especially with the Star Forge.
EDIT: However going off Temp and Ellm's point, they may not even have that, lmao.
Originally posted by Beniboyblingyou keep repeating this as if repetition makes it fact. The star forge, combined with all previous empires, pretty much erases GE superiority.
We've gone over this, they so embarrassingly outclassed by the GE when it come to firepower that numbers are largely irrelevant.EDIT: However going off Temp and Ellm's point, they may not even have that, lmao.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
EDIT: However going off Temp and Ellm's point, they may not even have that, lmao.
They don't.
The Galactic Empire has an exponential numbers advantage, per the source material, and thousands of years' worth of technological advancements and territorial expansion from which to draw manpower and materiel.
No doubt the Sith empires are going to mow down stormtroopers left and right, but they're dealing with an Emperor who won't hesitate to abuse scorched earth practices.
Not to mention the mass secession you'll see from the Sith when they learn of Palpatine.
Not that I'm getting involved, but you guys keep missing a rather giant thing that is one of the biggest factors of war.
Logistics movement.
Even with things as they are here, the GE has a much easier time transporting troops, supplies and everything compared to the other SEs.
The biggest ship the SEs have as far as transportation, is the Harrower class which can hold 7,300 troops, which is extremely small compared to what an ISD class 1 carries.
Originally posted by The_Tempestah mas secession? I see we're making stuff up now. In that case, the dread masters take out a 10th of the republic, while vitiate starts possessing thousands of bodies while running his ritual daily.
They don't.The Galactic Empire has an exponential numbers advantage, per the source material, and thousands of years' worth of technological advancements and territorial expansion from which to draw manpower and materiel.
No doubt the Sith empires are going to mow down stormtroopers left and right, but they're dealing with an Emperor who won't hesitate to abuse scorched earth practices.
Not to mention the mass secession you'll see from the Sith when they learn of Palpatine.
Originally posted by MS WarehouseThe point is well supported by yes facts:
you keep repeating this as if repetition makes it fact. The star forge, combined with all previous empires, pretty much erases GE superiority.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=15898184#post15898184
And unless you have a counter I'm not seeing what's stopping the Executor from seizing the Star Forge singlehandedly.
This is only even a debate for the first few years of the war anyway. If the Sith Empires don't deliver a crippling blow:
- Wankatine will master his Force storms
- Death Stars will be mass produced
- the sun crushers and galaxy guns will come out of the maw
- centerpoint station may even be refurbished
Originally posted by Beniboyblingyou have to give an argument as to how the executor is going to seize the star forge before i need to counter that argument. What facts are you talking about? The only thing the executor can do is destroy the star forge. It's not seizing it with storm troopers.
The point is well supported by yes facts:http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=15898184#post15898184
And unless you have a counter I'm not seeing what's stopping the Executor from seizing the Star Forge singlehandedly.
Originally posted by MS Warehouse
ah mas secession? I see we're making stuff up now.
"Making stuff up" lol.
It's reasonable to conclude that Sith mooks may have a crisis of loyalty when confronted with a far larger, more powerful Empire that's commanded by an even greater Sith Lord.
Originally posted by MS Warehouse
In that case, the dread masters take out a 10th of the republic, while vitiate starts possessing thousands of bodies while running his ritual daily.
You're certainly free to make those arguments and, in fact, I'd be interested to read more.
Originally posted by MS WarehouseIf the GE does in fact have a numerical advantage, the war won't even last that long.
you have to give an argument as to how the executor is going to seize the star forge before i need to counter that argument. What facts are you talking about? The only thing the executor can do is destroy the star forge. It's not seizing it with storm troopers.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNovaOn top of that the Sith Empires will sport terrible coordination. Vitiate's Sith Empire couldn't even get its own shit together when it came to teamwork.
Tbh Zen is right. The logistics advantage the GE has from simply having an infrastructure in place alone is almost enough to give them the win.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
This is only even a debate for the first few years of the war anyway. If the Sith Empires don't deliver a crippling blow:- Wankatine will master his Force storms
- Death Stars will be mass produced
- the sun crushers and galaxy guns will come out of the maw
- centerpoint station may even be refurbished
Well people, i think we can close this thread as well since it has also reached rock bottom stupidity.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
"Making stuff up" lol.It's reasonable to conclude that Sith mooks may have a crisis of loyalty when confronted with a far larger, more powerful Empire that's commanded by an even greater Sith Lord.
You're certainly free to make those arguments and, in fact, I'd be interested to read more.
Originally posted by The_Tempestthere's no need because if we are going to engage in desperate rationalization, we may as well claim vitiate is going to forge the one ring in the depths of korriban and become invincible unless the unlikely wacky duo of palpatine's stylist and manicurist can destroy it.
"Making stuff up" lol.It's reasonable to conclude that Sith mooks may have a crisis of loyalty when confronted with a far larger, more powerful Empire that's commanded by an even greater Sith Lord.
You're certainly free to make those arguments and, in fact, I'd be interested to read more.