All Sith Empires vs. The Galactic Empire

Started by The Ellimist7 pages
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Is that why superior GE starships were dropping like flies during the Battle of Endor?

The Rebel fleet was technologically vastly ahead of any fleet the sith empires could field. And the imperials went crazy after Palpatine died and his hold on them dissipated.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
The Rebel fleet was still vastly ahead of any fleet the sith empires could field. And the imperials went crazy after Palpatine died and his hold on them dissipated.

The disparity you speak of is imaginary.

In Star Wars, ancient weapons can be better than anything modern.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
He's not more powerful and since the sith acquiesce to the more powerful, theyre not turning over the star forge. This is of course if vitiate doesn't decide to populate the sf with his voices and royal guard and decides to destroy the sf if necessary rather than falling into enemy hands.

He's definitely more powerful and I'd say they would be tempted to turn it over to the Emperor.

That said, I'm sure an attempt would be made to scuttle the SF if Sith High Command learned of treachery.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
The 'word' alliance rings any bells?
An empty phrase in Sith vernacular. And alliance doesn't mean they obey Vitiate.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Thousands? Where did you get that figure from? There were dozens, and they were all fodder. What forces on board the Star Forge are going to stop Vader exactly, Bastila?

Regardless if they decide to destroy the Star Forge rather than capture it, that works too. It's not as if they need it to win.Quite, they've also got the various anti-Force user forces from Kamino, including Terror Droids, that or they can just blow them up with ATs.

i don't think you understand how this works. This is a theorical combination of all sith empires, not just revan's. If the sf is the most important commodity in their army, logic dictates they will protect it with their most powerful contingent. Something like the dread masters for instance. The only chance the GE has is to destroy it.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
The disparity you speak of is imaginary.

In Star Wars, ancient weapons can be better than anything modern.

Oh really? Show me the TOR ships that were 1600 meters long and had 60 heavy turbolaser batteries, 60 ion cannons and 10 tractor beams? And those were the old imperial-1 star destroyers, already being phased out by RotJ, and not even close to the most heavily armed ships in the Empire's arsenal.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Oh really? Show me the TOR ships that were 1600 meters long and had 60 heavy turbolaser batteries, 60 ion cannons and 10 tractor beams? And those were the old imperial-1 star destroyers, already being phased out by RotJ, and not even close to the most heavily armed ships in the Empire's arsenal.

So length of a vessel and number of batteries make considerable difference now?

Point is that inferior vessels have defeated superior vessels in various battles in Star Wars. It is all about tactics and maneuvering.

Beni, answer PM you shitstain.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
He's definitely more powerful and I'd say they would be tempted to turn it over to the Emperor.

That said, I'm sure an attempt would be made to scuttle the SF if Sith High Command learned of treachery.

he's definitely not more powerful and they won't be able to scuttle the sf. They'll have to destroy it which they possibly can.

I also just laughed at the idea that the rebel fleet is vsstly ahead of any army the sith could put out there. At least the stupidity has been consistent.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
i don't think you understand how this works. This is a theorical combination of all sith empires, not just revan's. If the sf is the most important commodity in their army, logic dictates they will protect it with their most powerful contingent. Something like the dread masters for instance. The only chance the GE has is to destroy it.
I doubt the Dread Masters would be stationed there when they'd be sorely needed on the front lines, but assuming for the moment that the Sith Empires' do decide to cooperate in this manner, they can just force them to surrender through the threat of annihilation.

Either way, without space superiority they are going to lose the Star Forge pretty quickly.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

Point is that inferior vessels have defeated superior vessels in various battles in Star Wars.

By that logic, Shaak Ti beats Vitiate because inferior opponents have beaten superior ones before. Never mind thinking about whether it's likely. 🙄

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
he's definitely not more powerful and they won't be able to scuttle the sf. They'll have to destroy it which they possibly can.

He's definitely more powerful and that's what I mean by scuttle: destroy it before it can be boarded by the enemy.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
He's definitely more powerful and that's what I mean by scuttle: destroy it before it can be boarded by the enemy.
He's definitely not so i agree with you that their best chance is to have the sf destroyed.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
By that logic, Shaak Ti beats Vitiate because inferior opponents have beaten superior ones before. Never mind thinking about whether it's likely. 🙄

That is a pathetic example. I await your concession.

So then they'd lose what logistical capability they had, which means they won't last long.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
That is a pathetic example. I await your concession.

Nice job not actually responding.

Just saying that the underdog *could* win is besides the point because by definition they're more likely to lose.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Nice job not actually responding.

Just saying that the underdog *could* win is besides the point because by definition they're more likely to lose.


Problem is that you are not able to offer a satisfactory explanation of why Imperial vessels were dropping like flies in a battle against inferior forces.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Problem is that you are not able to offer a satisfactory explanation of why Imperial vessels were dropping like flies in a battle against inferior forces.

1. They were ordered by the Emperor not to fire at the Rebels, and instead to just employ their starfighters.

2. They were facing the best of the Rebel fleet, and one of the greatest military commanders in history. The Rebels, mind you, have fleets and weapons far beyond anything Vitiate has ever seen. So whilst this fleet was "inferior" to the Empire's, it was still better than the ancient sith's.

3. Here's the kicker: despite these self-imposed handicaps, the Empire was still kicking their ass until Palpatine's death caused them all to go crazy and lose any sense of coordination.

Even the script notes the Rebel fleet was being crushed, as did Palpatine...soo...even taking away the thing about Palpatine's BM, the Rebel fleet was being decimated as per the script.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
1. They were ordered by the Emperor not to fire at the Rebels, and instead to just employ their starfighters.

Really?

Originally posted by The Ellimist
2. They were facing the best of the Rebel fleet, and one of the greatest military commanders in history. The Rebels, mind you, have fleets and weapons far beyond anything Vitiate has ever seen. So whilst this fleet was "inferior" to the Empire's, it was still better than the ancient sith's.

Back to your 'far more advanced' nonsense?

Vessels got bigger but technologies remained similar.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
3. Here's the kicker: despite these self-imposed handicaps, the Empire was still kicking their ass until Palpatine's death caused them all to go crazy and lose any sense of coordination.

Here is a hint: Battle Meditation