All Sith Empires vs. The Galactic Empire

Started by The_Tempest7 pages
Originally posted by MS Warehouse
there's no need because if we are going to engage in desperate rationalization, we may as well claim vitiate is going to forge the one ring in the depths of korriban and become invincible unless the unlikely wacky duo of palpatine's stylist and manicurist can destroy it.

Yes. Because this is certainly more plausible than Sith betraying their Master.

Especially for the sith who honestly believe in the rule by the strongest; they'll see Palpatine and fall on their knees.

I wonder how many star destroyers vitiate can comandeer through sheer mind domination. Enough I'm guessing.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
you have to give an argument as to how the executor is going to seize the star forge before i need to counter that argument. What facts are you talking about? The only thing the executor can do is destroy the star forge. It's not seizing it with storm troopers.
All they need to do is capture the system it's in then send in Darth Vader, lol.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Yes. Because this is certainly more plausible than Sith betraying their Master.

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What if the Forge commanders, upon encountering the Empire and learning of the Emperor, surrender it to Palpatine?

Probably won't make that much of a difference, given the colossal disparity, but still.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
All they need to do is capture the system it's in then send in Darth Vader, lol.
And how are they going to capture it? With their army of force users? Errr wrong empire.

And what if those star forge commanders learn of palpatine and still fear vitiate more?? Hmm

Originally posted by Beniboybling
.On top of that the Sith Empires will sport terrible coordination. Vitiate's Sith Empire couldn't even get its own shit together when it came to teamwork.

I still facepalm when I watch the Battle of Bothawui and how Sith Commanders just sent waves and waves of their men to die against a paltry force of like...4,084 when they had a clear number advantage of 50,000.

Even then the SE couldn't take the planet because they lost so many men.

The ancient Sith Empire collective? GE stands no chance against such odds.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
And what if those star forge commanders learn of palpatine and still fear vitiate more?? Hmm

It's definitely worth discussing. But I'd say they'd definitely fear Palpatine more.

I wonder what Bane would do. He'd probably defect to Palpatine.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
It's definitely worth discussing. But I'd say they'd definitely fear Palpatine more.
i highly doubt that but this has been a cute game of "what if".

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
And how are they going to capture it? With their army of force users? Errr wrong empire.
Do you read? They capture the system through vast space superiority, and the fact that SSDs like the Executor vastly outclass anything in the oppositions arsenal, and the capture the station because Vader can fodderise everyone on board singlehandedly.

Comprende?

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
And what if those star forge commanders learn of palpatine and still fear vitiate more?? Hmm
They don't answer to Vitiate, they answer to Revan. Or Malak, depending how quickly he decides to betray him this time.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Do you read? They capture the system through vast space superiority, and the fact that SSDs like the Executor vastly outclass anything in the oppositions arsenal, and the capture the station because Vader can fodderise everyone on board singlehandedly.

Comprende?

do you read? The ge ground troopers are no match for thousands of force users and vader isn't single handedly destroying any of those on board. Comprende?

Also why would you assume they answer to revan or malak? This is a combination of all sith empires so the general assumption is that their most powerful member is the commander in chief. That's vitiate.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
i highly doubt that but this has been a cute game of "what if".

He's more powerful, more intelligent, has accomplished far more without the need of 14 centuries and thousands of Sith. He commands a greater Empire. And he has nifty Force storms and a shitton of clones.

Not to mention he's exceptionally petty, sadistic, and cruel even among Sith.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Do you read? They capture the system through vast space superiority, and the fact that SSDs like the Executor vastly outclass anything in the oppositions arsenal, and the capture the station because Vader can fodderise everyone on board singlehandedly.

Not to mention that the Empire does have a sizable ground force of probably trillions of stormtroopers and assorted support in total, and yeah, that much firepower would take out mook sith pretty quickly.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Do you read? They capture the system through vast space superiority, and the fact that SSDs like the Executor vastly outclass anything in the oppositions arsenal, and the capture the station because Vader can fodderise everyone on board singlehandedly.

Is that why superior GE starships were dropping like flies during the Battle of Endor?

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Comprende?They don't answer to Vitiate, they answer to Revan. Or Malak, depending how quickly he decides to betray him this time.

The 'word' alliance rings any bells?

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
do you read? The ge ground troopers are no match for thousands of force users and vader isn't single handedly destroying any of those on board. Comprende?

Also why would you assume they answer to revan or malak? This is a combination of all sith empires so the general assumption is that their most powerful member is the commander in chief. That's vitiate.

Thousands? Where did you get that figure from? There were dozens, and they were all fodder. What forces on board the Star Forge are going to stop Vader exactly, Bastila?

Regardless if they decide to destroy the Star Forge rather than capture it, that works too. It's not as if they need it to win.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Not to mention that the Empire does have a sizable ground force of probably trillions of stormtroopers and assorted support in total, and yeah, that much firepower would take out mook sith pretty quickly.
Quite, they've also got the various anti-Force user forces from Kamino, including Terror Droids, and those snazzy Carbonite war droids as well.

Also one thing, everyone is taking into account which SEs actually matter? Not all of them had navies, technology and the like. Would the SEs that do really give a *** about the ones who don't even have anything to contribute? This makes them transporting those guys also a hassle, because again...they won't have an easy time transporting everything.

Yes they have the Starforge, which helps. But then they would need to make more ships compared to the GE just to try and cover where they need to actually go, they would need to keep doing this as the GE is also making their ships.

If the Starforge gets taken out, then they lost pretty much any means of having any logistical capacity.

He's not more powerful and since the sith acquiesce to the more powerful, theyre not turning over the star forge. This is of course if vitiate doesn't decide to populate the sf with his voices and royal guard and decides to destroy the sf if necessary rather than falling into enemy hands.