Originally posted by socool8520
I didn't attack you. I make a point not to do that. Once I saw what you're intent was, you know the reason I asked the question, I then preceded to disagree with your intent which is what i did. You can take it however you feel though.
Did you also notice he has used strawman arguments in the past and is now complaining someone apparently "put words in his mouth" ? Lol. I can't tell if it's satire or not.
Originally posted by Surtur
The problem is slavery wasn't unique to us, but I wonder, how many of the other countries that had slavery had people rise up and fight an actual war in part to end slavery?
People rising up to fight slavery happened every now and then all over the planet, it really depends on the definition of an "actual war".
An equally interesting question would be how many countries abolished slavery without sheding blood at all.
Originally posted by Bentley
People rising up to fight slavery happened every now and then all over the planet, it really depends on the definition of an "actual war".An equally interesting question would be how many countries abolished slavery without sheding blood at all.
Do you know of one?
Other countries did it better no doubt, but there would always be some a holes who would fight to keep their slaves.
Originally posted by socool8520
I agree with Bash that there is a double standard, I just disagree with whom the double standard is on.If this were fourty years ago, when minorities were discriminated against with impunity, Bash's comment would have been correct unfortunately.
They wanted to live in the past so people can pretend to be victimized in the present.
Also remember for the haircut thing, that is just the assumption as to why. I wonder if it was just...the color of the guys skin? The only haircuts that even make me think of nazis are the skinhead ones and that is more neo nazi than anything. This guy didn't have that.
Originally posted by socool8520
I agree with Bash that there is a double standard, I just disagree with whom the double standard is on.If this were fourty years ago, when minorities were discriminated against with impunity, Bash's comment would have been correct unfortunately.
you're still altering my statement. i never even implied that there was impunity for bigoted attacks. if you ever want to argue with a point i actually made, instead of one you feel that i've made, i'll be around. 👆
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
you're still altering my statement. i never even implied that there was impunity for bigoted attacks. if you ever want to argue with a point i actually made, instead of one you feel that i've made, i'll be around. 👆
Please, tell me what your point is. To me, your point is that no one's up in arms about minorities being discriminated against so why should this guy be any different. Is that right?
Originally posted by socool8520
Do you know of one?Other countries did it better no doubt, but there would always be some a holes who would fight to keep their slaves.
Ancient Rome had those conflicts, Haiti had a very gory rebellion to abolish slavery which actually worked. Those are the first examples that come to mind.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
no you didnt ask, you posed a rhetorical question as a springboard for your ongoing and continual strawman attack.
i have like 6 other people here who attempt that exact bullshit on me whenever i need my fix. why do i need you for that?
Yes I did ask, and i still am. A rhetorical implies that I want no answer. That's wrong. I wanted clarification of your point?
Originally posted by socool8520
Yes I did ask, and i still am. What is your point?
my point is that the trend here is that when a non-white gets attacked in america, in an obvious hate crime, every topic is deliberaltely derailed with "lol isolated incident" and "whatabout ___".
literally ONE white guy gets attacked over his panzer-fade haircut, and now we all need to be outraged and anyone who doesnt see a clear pattern of injustice must be howled out of the room.
that is not to say that your attitude is such, but you did instantly try to demonize me, so you were being childish.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
my point is that the trend here is that when a non-white gets attacked in america, in an obvious hate crime, every topic is deliberaltely derailed with "lol isolated incident" and "whatabout ___".literally ONE white guy gets attacked over his panzer-fade haircut, and now we all need to be outraged and anyone who doesnt see a clear pattern of injustice must be howled out of the room.
that is not to say that your attitude is such, but you did instantly try to demonize me, so you were being childish.
I would argue that there is far more outrage than derailment, and in this day and age, there is more likely a program instituted to fix the problem.
Well one guy was attacked so far, but I read about a rapper who changed his haircut because it was similar to this so called Nazi cut.
If you have read my posts, than you know that I speak against injustices done to anyone, regardless of their race, sex, etc.
I didn't try to demonize, I asked you a question. You said your point was not the one I posed in the first inquiry and hinted at double standards. I then posed another question and a rebuttal. Had you stated your point the way you just did above, it would have been much easier to see where you were coming from. Instead you seemed to use some type of satirical sarcasm making your point ambiguous.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
my point is that the trend here is that when a non-white gets attacked in america, in an obvious hate crime, every topic is deliberaltely derailed with "lol isolated incident" and "whatabout ___".literally ONE white guy gets attacked over his panzer-fade haircut, and now we all need to be outraged and anyone who doesnt see a clear pattern of injustice must be howled out of the room.
that is not to say that your attitude is such, but you did instantly try to demonize me, so you were being childish.