Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Tagging isn't an issue.It's putting him down.
Hulk's strength logically give him burst speed advantages too, yes? Strong enough to give Thor concussions, strong enough to overload Vibranium.
Not fast enough to avoid the shield, though,nor strong enough to KO Cap
Originally posted by DarkSaint85👆
Just noticed Cap is actually doing a full somersault (or at least, leaping over the fallen Thor) whilst Hulk is in full swing (check the speed lines on his fist).
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWSurfer's only chance is to grab the shield, and Cap is simply too skilled and fast for that. And even then Cap arguably doesn't even need it.Thunderclap would be very far fetched.
For Surfer, who is severely lacking combat speed (or any close combat efficiency) feats?It certainly is.
Especially when Cap does not want to be touched.
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But yeah, he has the shield and knows how to use it.One of the most skilled combatants in the whole Marvel Universe with superhuman speed and agility faces a pacifist idiot with minimal experience in melee.
Gee, I wonder what could happen?
Originally posted by Genii96
Green scar would argue this point tho
Hulk was trying to reason with Surfer, while Surfer secretly relished in being the gladiator slave, as the story told us.
Originally posted by Philosophía
👆Surfer's only chance is to grab the shield, and Cap is simply too skilled and fast for that. And even then Cap arguably doesn't even need it.Thunderclap would be very far fetched.
Grabbing the shield didn't work so well for Namor, who happens to be faster and more skilled than Surfer.
Just saying.
Re: Re: Re: Captain America vs. Silver Surfer (with a twist)
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Even though Steve hurt more powerful foes than Surfer?Assuming he is invulnerable to Cap's blows, he still needs to do more than just no-sell his attacks; he needs to take Steve down.
No, he really can't.
Namor tried that and failed --- and Namor is faster and more skilled than Norrin without his board.
Using showings where characters are operating far below their average levels hold absolutely NO WATER here. If Surfer is a legit class 100 with nanosecond reactions (can move in relation to a few nanoseconds) then he can easily statue Cap and grab him or catch the shield.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You haven't even mentioned a single feat, Celey.So again, I ask --- what makes you think he's fast enough - without his board - to compete with Rogers in the melee combat?
Grabbing Nova(has superspeed) by the neck and throwing him and Nova having no idea who just did that to him.
Attempt at grabing the ig from Thanos a lightyear away. Moving that fast on the board requires extremely quick limb movement.
While pinned down by the Stranger(high end cosmic), Surfer moves and blasts him to escape. Stranger is surprised by his "lightning speed".
He has tk stopped an oncoming subway train in the "space of a microsecond".
While flying at speeds outracing detonation signal, he is able to locate and grab Nova(herald) to safety.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
His board is sentient. It does all the work for him.When grounded, his speed is very average.
Wrong!
1. Surfer controls his board mentally. That's basic comic knowledge.
2. Surfer has feats of perceiving events and moving arms within a span of a few nanoseconds WITH and WITHOUT HIS BOARD.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yes, yes, I know they are all old scans.....but I found it interesting, all this time I thought the FF movie was completely wrong.
Mainstream, alternate universes, cartoons, movie you just mentioned...
They all agree that Surfer becomes quite helpless without his board.
And it's not just because he loses the ability to fly --- his very fighting style depends on it too much.