Reflex and speed.
https://imgur.com/dwryF8A
Against insta teleportation
https://imgur.com/YyCck5I
Ala capt.
Durability & low.
https://imgur.com/E1mg3S7
Notice that’s She Hulk
https://imgur.com/a/KHcN1Tu
Wonder man and Storm couldn’t even put him down in that weakened state, how’s In the world is Cap going to do it against a full powered version.
https://imgur.com/YdaxMmX
Against a planet destroying blast.
So let’s see we have Surfer reacting and attacking a near instantaneous teleportation coupled with a durability withstanding a barrage of attack from a blood lusted Wonderman and storm at a weakened state, this feats should be sufficient enough evidence to suggest that this is spite. Anyone who thinks otherwise Is not al right in the mind.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Dodging and blocking lasers in zero gravity?Boardless Surfer can't hope to match him.
It takes less than 30mph speed to aim dodge.
I already explained to you that Surfer has feats of moving, perceiving, and reacting with limbs within the span of nanoseconds with and without his board.
Originally posted by Ambient
Reflex and speed.https://imgur.com/dwryF8A
Against insta teleportationhttps://imgur.com/YyCck5I
Ala capt.Durability & low.
https://imgur.com/E1mg3S7
Notice that’s She Hulkhttps://imgur.com/a/KHcN1Tu
Wonder man and Storm couldn’t even put him down in that weakened state, how’s In the world is Cap going to do it against a full powered version.https://imgur.com/YdaxMmX
Against a planet destroying blast.So let’s see we have Surfer reacting and attacking a near instantaneous teleportation coupled with a durability withstanding a barrage of attack from a blood lusted Wonderman and storm at a weakened state, this feats should be sufficient enough evidence to suggest that this is spite. Anyone who thinks otherwise Is not al right in the mind.
I wholeheartedly laughed when I saw Surfer fans posting showings that, incidentally, prove that Cap is faster both in reaction and movement than him.
The infinity gauntlet scene, for example.
You can see Captain America not only react to Surfer as he's trying to grab Thanos' IG -- but also completely changing his stance to prepare and attack as Surfer fails and Thanos turns towards him. Surfer completely misses and couldn't adjust to grab it, meanwhile Cap perceives it, reacts, is able to adjust his entire body to the situation -- and he didn't even have any idea Surfer was coming before he saw him.
They should have given Cap the board and the Infinity Gauntlet story would have been done within 4 issues.
Good job 👆
Originally posted by abhilegendlol, you don't even need to go that high.
Not that it will stop you but Midnight Son and Ganeymede who are barely superhuman in speed have blitzed Surfer just fine.
Black Panther jumped on his board and put him in an armlock before he could react:
And I haven't even begun with the shitload of other showings.
Cap would tango-dance around him for an entire hour -- even if he cannot actually KO him [given the people Cap has hurt with his shield, that is debatable, but irrelevant afterall considering the purpose is to get through the clock]
https://imgur.com/dwryF8A
Against insta teleportation
This is not instant teleportation. The teleportation destination is visible in the infrared spectrum before he materializes. It's not dissimilar to Magneto, for example, being able to know where Nightcrawler teleports before he does so:
https://imgur.com/a/KMWwMaq
Originally posted by h1a8The board is sentient -- like a separate character that is connected to Surfer. He can give it commands and then do something else while it obeys.
Wrong!
1. Surfer controls his board mentally. That's basic comic knowledge.
2. Surfer has feats of perceiving events and moving arms within a span of a few nanoseconds WITH and WITHOUT HIS BOARD.
That is basic comic knowledge
Surfer was over a lightyear away and had to fly ftl. While flying ftl, he had the wherewithal to swipe at the ig. No human is going to be able to do that. U need to have superhuman reaction. Cap wasn't reacting to Surfer.
He's done this more than once. Another good superhuman reaction was locating and grabbing Nova(herald) while flying at speeds that outraced an electronic signal.
Still havent really seen anything from Cap that makes things more interesting.
Originally posted by h1a8
It takes less than 30mph speed to aim dodge.I already explained to you that Surfer has feats of moving, perceiving, and reacting with limbs within the span of nanoseconds with and without his board.
In zero gravity, when attacks are coming from all directions? Good luck.
He doesn't have such feats.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWYup. If you move 30mph then you can successfully aim dodge all kinds of attacks. Just move out of the way before the fire. Note: You see in most of those scans Cap isn't moving at all. Either He already moved before the fire or those computers are terrible at targeting.
In zero gravity, when attacks are coming from all directions? Good luck.He doesn't have such feats.
Here's the nail in the coffin.
This is a famous fiction trope where human characters evade multiple machine gun fire by simply running less than 20mph.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
The crucial part of that feat was Cap timing the firing rate and the movement of the laser nozzles.
Aim dodging. The nozzles were telegraphing. But Cap was moving no faster than his top running speed.
Actually, he doesn't need to time anything. Just stay in motion (don't be in the same spot for too long).
Originally posted by Philosophía
h1 about to show us Surfer dancing around Spiderman.Oh...wait.
Surfer can move his arms within the span of nanoseconds (as shown). He can't dance around someone within the span of nanoseconds.
Originally posted by h1a8
Surfer can move his arms within the span of nanoseconds (as shown). He can't dance around someone within the span of nanoseconds.
Oh, h1. But that's exactly what happens. Spiderman has a very blatant h2h speed advantage against Surfer.
And no matter how much you might lowball Cap, he's never looked this slow against Pete.
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More:
Surfer: "Even your dexterity is no match for my cosmic board [hmmm ... board you say? 🙂]"
Spidey: "I wouldn't be so sure about that!"
As it has been explained to you numerous times already -- Surfer's speed is based on the thought controlled, sentient board. In the last scan, you can tastily enjoy Spiderman blitzing him through a cosmic blast -- all the while in previous scans dodging his blasts, outmanuvering him and ending up below his board, webbing him off it, tripping him off it and more. Spiderman of courses loses seeing as how he's exhausted and can barely stand by the end -- but take away the board and power cosmic and, well, you've got this thread.