What is standard equipment???

Originally posted by leonidas
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i feel like that has been building up for a while, but i think i get what you're saying here--aquaman sucks. and so do women. 👆

but to the other point--it's pretty easily solved--put the stip in the OP. put BT in the OP in a blade match. that doesn't really address the overall point though about what IS standard--ie, what needs a stip and what doesn't.

trackz showed BT has appeared in a certain high percentage of blade-related material over the last couple years. ds has argued that it isn't enough. the question is easy--how frequently does something need to appear to be standard? i don't consider herc's mace standard, though it could be seen that way. namor's water suit if he'll be away from water for a long while. standard? what about HIS trident? i'm not trying to get you to make a backhanded mod ruling, i'm genuinely curious because it seems people really do have differing opinions. let's say over the last couple years BT has been in 8/10 arcs (not sure if that's right, but just an example). is that sufficient do you think to be considered standard? 7/10?

Trackz showed a high percentage? Where?

Am genuinely curious in this one (and Trackz will prob just castigate me lol), so in your understanding, which issues did BT and Blade show up in for battle that I missed out?

let's say over the last couple years BT has been in 8/10 arcs (not sure if that's right, but just an example)

but using trackz argument (that i long ago stopped attending):

We know he's used in king in black, but if we suspend that as an on-going event, boy-thing has been used in:

1. Vampire War

2. War of the Realms

3. Race of the Ghost Riders

4. Star-Brand reborn

The khonshu arc (where he is a periphery character) is the only arc in which it isn't explained why boy-thing isn't around. The phoenix arc explicitly states that they had boy-thing watch the starbrand.

So four major arcs over 2 years in addition the present arc where they have to explicitly state why Blade isn't with boy-thing. AKA it is narratively important to explain when Blade and boy-thing aren't connected.

so my question to pr is IF this is true and taken at face value, would you consider it enough to be standard equipment?

again, i could not care less about this specific example--if this is true, based on how i understood pr's explanation, this WOULD be enough.

Originally posted by leonidas
but using trackz argument (that i long ago stopped attending):

so my question to pr is IF this is true and taken at face value, would you consider it enough to be standard equipment?

again, i could not care less about this specific example--if this is true, based on how i understood pr's explanation, this WOULD be enough.

Thing is, If this were true, it would be enough.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
BT appears in Avengers #17.
#18, War of the Realms. [b]No BT
#19 - Blade is shown fighting, no BT
#20 - Blade is shown fighting, no BT
#21 - The scans above-Blade is shown with BT going off to fight vamps. War of the Realms is EXPLICITLY over. Blade fights using BT
#22 - Blade is with BT as they stand around talking
#23 - Cosmic GR attacks, Blade sends BT away when fighting starts No BT fighting with Blade.
#24 - Blade fights with the breathing gun (first time); no BT
#25 - Blade is fighting in Hell, no BT
#26 - flashback, no Blade
#27 - Blade walking around and talking, no BT(except when he gives a rose to Black Widow). Fast forward to a few weeks later, then they are in GR's car.
#28 - they're in GR's car, Blade is dying
#29 - The surfer feat (BT's idea, not Blade's) Blade fights using BT
#30 - Gladiator feat Blade fights using BT
#31 - No Blade, only Stark
#32 - Blade is about to leave with BT, gets talked back by Widow
#32 - no BT
#33 -no BT
#34 -noBT
#35 -noBT
#36 -no BT
#37- ; no BT these past issues are the Khonshu arc
#38 - Blade is shown, no BT
#39 - Flashback
#40 - Blade fights when Namor attacks; no BT
#41 - no Blade
#42 - It's shown BT is babysitting. no BT fighting with Blade.
. [/B]

However, it is not true.

coolio. like i said, i lost track(z) of the arguments a long time ago--my trolling of you periodically notwithstanding. 👆

you addressed my point though--if it was true that would be enough. how the two of you can literally look at the same arcs and come up with different numbers is quite literally beyond me.

in the last 20 issues of blade-related books, how many times has bt appeared? it's a number. the semantics are blurring the argument--the way you guys are tackling it is like trying to decide what's a catch in the nfl nowadays--making something very simple, really complicated.

I'm not sure on whose side leo is here.

😖hifty:

For straights, You dudes have too much concern about a man's boy thing 😖hifty:

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
For straights, You dudes have too much concern about a man's boy thing 😖hifty:

Welcome to KMC.

We're all gay here, but only zopzop was brave enough to admit it.

Originally posted by leonidas
coolio. like i said, i lost track(z) of the arguments a long time ago--my trolling of you periodically notwithstanding. 👆

you addressed my point though--if it was true that would be enough. how the two of you can literally look at the same arcs and come up with different numbers is quite literally beyond me.

in the last 20 issues of blade-related books, how many times has bt appeared? it's a number. the semantics are blurring the argument--the way you guys are tackling it is like trying to decide what's a catch in the nfl nowadays--making something very simple, really complicated.

But that's the point.

BT HASN'T appeared that often in the past 20 issues of Blade-related books.

That is literally my point. You really misunderstood my argument, lol. It's a pure and simple number.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Welcome to KMC.

We're all gay here, but only zopzop was brave enough to admit it.

And Bentley.....
😉

Not like Blade needs whatever we're talking about (I assume a force field suit)

According to cinemablend, Blade is more powerful then Morbius.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But that's the point.

BT HASN'T appeared that often in the past 20 issues of Blade-related books.

That is literally my point. You really misunderstood my argument, lol. It's a pure and simple number.

I didn’t misunderstand it, I literally stopped following. Except to troll on occasions. 😛

But if you say he didn’t make appearances then how come the argument turned into a 100 post back and forth?

I could go back and read it but I’m really only interested in the macro picture, the whole blade thing is just the catalyst. How is standard equipment quantified?

At stilt—I’m on my own side. And yours if you also enjoy occasionally trolling ds. 👍🏻

Originally posted by Trackz
The answer is yes, you are being blind to arguments. And like I've repeatedly said you've been willfully ignorant to said arguments. As has been noted Blade has been depicted with boy-thing the majority of his arca for the last 2 years. When he's not depicted with it, it has been syayed or shown why with the exception of the Khonshu arc. You brought back King in Black point, so now you're lying once again to try and get a favorable moderator ruling when they clearly are not interested in this.

To anyone that cares the point is simply Blade has been shown with boy-thing more consistently than any of his other equipment over the last 2 years save his swords. For characters with variable equipment, we use their most consistent showings. DS purely for the sake of protecting his ego I guess has shifted it to standard use and is showing arcs in which its shown why Blade isn't using boy-thing for combat but is shown using him for other things (e.g. War of Realms, doesn't use him to fight, is shown using him to travel between missions) or is attempting an absence of evidence argument (e.g. Blade hasn't been shown with BT in King in Black therefore he doesn't have him inexplicably, even though the event is on-goijg and we have advertisements for the event in the future showing that Blade uses BT).

Its been fairly clear for everyone else who has read through the arguments that BT is standard for Blade, and as multiple users began making that point DS panics and make this thread.

Its been 2 years since Blade got BT, and has made use of him in every major arc, save for the Khonshu arc and the current arc so far where he decides that BT should look after a baby while he guards the outside of the base, with clear evidence he will be using him in the next major arc. If 2 years of consistent possession isn't standard for a character with varied arsenal, then to the point there's no reason to assume batman has everything in his belt. Especially since we've seen Blade can have BT do other things. The only counter argument is the exact absence of evidence argument that DS is arguing is insufficient for the belt.

Like I said in BOTH threads though. Its been fairly clear to everyone else involved and I'd be happy to engage in the other threads with people who are interested in having honest debates about it. Not people who continue to make dishonest arguments and lie. This isn't that serious and makes the whole thing worse for everyone involved.

Boy Thing..

As in, a child version of Man Thing?

...I take it back, THIS is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. 🤣

Lol. It’s up there. And I just finally did a quick check on boy thing. In no site that talks about him as a character is blade even mentioned. You’d think if he were going to be considered blades standard equipment blade would be mentioned in a bio...somewhere, no?

Anyway like I said—I don’t care about that. I was more interested in the big picture question.

As I said, don't buy what he was peddling. Really, I was only looking out for you, lol.

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my question is- how many times in the last 2 years has Blade used BT in combat scenarios?

Weigh that against all of the combat scenarios he's had over the same period of time and you'll get your answer.

According to DS' post, it happened... twice?

Against some ultra-tough powerhouses, so it makes sense he would need all help he could get...

Yea, so we're just going to lie our way through this one I guess.

Originally posted by Trackz
#17 - Blade has BT
#19 - Blade does not have BT
#20 - Blade does not have BT
#21 - Blade has BT - shown that Blade has been using BT for travel for independent missions
#22 - Blade has BT
#23 - Blade has BT
#24 - Blade has BT - rescues BT, who is injured in the fight
#25 - Blade does not have BT
#27 - Blade has BT
#28 - Blade has BT
#29 - Blade has BT
#30 - Blade has BT

#32 - Blade has BT
#33 - Blade does not have BT
#34 - Blade does not have BT
#35 - Blade does not have BT
#36 - Blade does not have BT
#38 - Blade does not have BT
#40 - Blade fights when Namor attacks; no BT
#42 - It is stated why Blade did not have BT in the previous issue

In Blade's appearances, he has BT in over half. Times when he does not have BT, it is stated why. DS has re-defined "Blade has BT" such that in an issue in which BT hops off Blade to protect him and is subsequently injured, it no longer counts as "has BT". He's redefined as BT getting injured and thus removed from battle as an issue in which Blade "doesn't have BT".

Like I've stated there is a single exception, the Khonshu arc, in which it isn't explicable why Blade doesn't have BT. Other than that?

Boy-thing bios:

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/boy-thing/4005-154836/

"Boy-Thing defected and bonded with Blade, serving the same purpose for him as Shadow Colonel."

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Boy-Thing_(Earth-616)

"partner of Blade"

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix8/boythingav.htm

basically every description mentions Blade...I'm curious where you found a bio that didn't mention him

Sexual partner 👆