Zod vs Wonder Woman

Started by ODG52 pages

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Because other people also get their things to do?
I don't recall ever criticizing you for your delayed replies.

So maybe take a couple moments to reflect on your own posts to me and recompose yourself.

After you salve your anus with vaseline, that is.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You get nothing, little biatch.
Well, yes... once I finally deigned to respond after your b1tch-self chased me for 200+ posts over 10+ years...

... yes. As soon as I started responding, I got nothing but you fleeing like a b1tch. Not my fault.

Originally posted by ODG
I don't recall ever criticizing you for your delayed replies.

So maybe take a couple moments to reflect on your own posts to me and recompose yourself.


Except
1) In this thread, I didn't take as long as you did?

For example, these posts are in Jan 27th. I replied you in the same day

Originally posted by ODG
Zod doesn't have Eradicator's capabilities. Those scans are about as irrelevant as showing Wonder Woman fighting Circe or Grail. Case in point... That's basically a throwaway scene but, by comparison: Wonder Woman recently defeated Grail who was assisted by Circe, Giganta, Doctor Psycho, Angle Man & Silver Swan.

And Grail embarrassed the entire Justice League during the Darkseid War.

So if you want to compare???


Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Except Zod can withstand Eradicator's attacks(and overpowers him), while Wonder Woman is down with one attack?

If Zod or Wonder Woman doesn't fight Eradicator you may have some points. But the fact is *they both fight Eradicator*, there is a comparator

Or use Smurph's Mongul example

You're turning to Carver every day, ODG

Then, you disappeared. You showed up two days later, and I still replied to you in the same day

Originally posted by ODG
Eradicator trying to choke out Zod with his own hands would turn out differently from Wonder Woman trying to choke out Zod with her Lasso of Truth.

Either discuss these comic characters in good faith or don't. Nobody is stupid enough to reduce this to simple ABC logic given how different these comic characters are and how different their arsenal is and how different their superpowers and vulnerabilities are and...

... you either get it or don't. Or you do get it and just pretend you don't and then insist such reductionist/infantile logic ought to be applied to me.

Not my first rodeo, pal.


Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
That's not the thread shows unfortunately

And here you're again, two days later, with a reply basically says nothing to my points. I still replied to you in the same day

Originally posted by ODG
The sheer phucking irony. Take a couple moments to reflect on your own posts to me and recompose yourself.

Then take a few more, pal. If past is prelude, you'll need it.


Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So it takes you two days to come up an essentially saying "you got nothing to counter here" reply
Okay....maybe you should check your brain. I mean, a person with an average IQ normally doesn't need so much time to type a reply like that

2) And another problem is your reply basically says nothing to counter the actual question/proofs I presented to you.

For example, care to explain how Wonder Woman trying to choke out Zod with her Lasso of Truth would change anything here? Like the reply I gave you in Jan 29th

3) You're doing this very often(at least, the past few months). A reply takes you days to week to monthS to make. And these replies don't really require you do research or something like that, just, quoted from another poster, childish back and forth.

I.E, your problems are
1) People usually don't make a habit of delayed reply in a discussion. But in the past few months you're doing it very often.
2) The replies you made are also not very constructive in a discussion. Basically just "you're retarded!", "no, you're retarded", very childish and meaningless replies.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Except
1) In this thread, I didn't take as long as you did?
Yes. Full-stop.

You want to set a time-limit to replying to your posts, by all means.

So long as you abide by your own arbitrary time-limits.

Strikes me as utterly b1tchmade? But you do you.

Originally posted by ODG
Yes. Full-stop.

You want to set a time-limit to replying to your posts, by all means.

So long as you abide by your own arbitrary time-limits.

Strikes me as utterly b1tchmade? But you do you.


Honestly, you acting like an arrogant spoiled 12 year old, who didn't even bother to read others' posts fully and completely ignore the following points
😕

^ Well, we could discuss this topic.

But you clearly don't want to.

Because your attempt at blitz-scanning irrelevant scenes fell flat on its face.

Which only came after trying to suggest that Zod's team-busting feat was somehow determinative of this thread. But then you got anally raped by Wonder Woman's team-busting feat which far outstrips it.

Try some ointment. Then come back and discuss this topic. 👆

Originally posted by ODG
^ Well, we could discuss this topic.

But you clearly don't want to.


Aren't you the one who don't want to discuss this topic though?
Like I said in the post you replied
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998

2) And another problem is your reply basically says nothing to counter the actual question/proofs I presented to you.

For example, care to explain how Wonder Woman trying to choke out Zod with her Lasso of Truth would change anything here? Like the reply I gave you in Jan 29th


Maybe try to read the full post before you reply?

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Aren't you the one who don't want to discuss this topic though?
That's actually you being a c#nt and projecting your own reticence onto me.

We're here now though. By all means, how does your tremendous Zod teambusting feat measure against the Wonder Woman teambusting feat I cited?

I mean, that is what what ripped your anal fissures, after all. So address it.

I'd give Zod 6/10. If Diana uses her lasso smart, she wins.

Originally posted by Senor Cage
I'd give Zod 6/10. If Diana uses her lasso smart, she wins.
This strikes me as a sensible opinion. I approve.

Wait, didn't Diana already beat up a bunch of rogue Kryptoanians not that long ago? like 4 years ago? Was that Zod? Can't rememeber

Originally posted by ODG
That's actually you being a c#nt and projecting your own reticence onto me.

We're here now though. By all means, how does your tremendous Zod teambusting feat measure against the Wonder Woman teambusting feat I cited?

I mean, that is what what ripped your anal fissures, after all. So address it.


Lol, I replied to the same point back in days ago
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Except Zod can withstand Eradicator's attacks(and overpowers him), while Wonder Woman is down with one attack?

If Zod or Wonder Woman doesn't fight Eradicator you may have some points. But the fact is *they both fight Eradicator*, there is a comparator

Or use Smurph's Mongul example

You're turning to Carver every day, ODG

And then you replied it would be different because somehow WW's lasso would work different against to Zod than Eradicator did.

Originally posted by ODG
Eradicator trying to choke out Zod with his own hands would turn out differently from Wonder Woman trying to choke out Zod with her Lasso of Truth.

Either discuss these comic characters in good faith or don't. Nobody is stupid enough to reduce this to simple ABC logic given how different these comic characters are and how different their arsenal is and how different their superpowers and vulnerabilities are and...

... you either get it or don't. Or you do get it and just pretend you don't and then insist such reductionist/infantile logic ought to be applied to me.

Not my first rodeo, pal.


And then I replied with many examples/argument that support it wouldn't/it isn't sufficient
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
That's not the thread shows unfortunately

Originally posted by Smurph
except you've said that speed is a wash.

There isn't a single fight where Wonder Woman was able to move fast enough to lasso her peer before they traded blows.

Supergirl? They fought, she tried, she failed, she tried again, got solar flared.

PG? Simply dodged it.

Superman? Only worked because he was mind controlled to solely focused on Batman. And then the lasso did nothing.

Superman again? Simply dodged it.

And here you've specified that speed is equal. So this scenario is just Carver fantasy, unmoored from the comics.

Which means that this is all a giant concession that if she trades blows with Zod, she loses.


Originally posted by Smurph
also:


Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Zoom isn't faster, rather, he travels through time.

Flash was lassoed because he was super predictable, like a starfish. Or he was not operating at full cpacity (Memno had stolen his memories of how his powers worked).

OTOH:

Zod has better feats than Dalan.


Originally posted by DarkSaint85
"Tell me the truth, Zod!"

"The truth...the truth....the truth is, you will KNEEL!"

Which makes sense, as:

[b]Smurph's original point, btw, is that the lasso is not the be-all and end-all one shot haxx weapon you think it is, Carver.

And these scans all prove it. [/B]


Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah. Firstly, for all the talk about a mind controlled Superman, he still was too fast for her to get the lasso around him when they fought on Earth.

Now I know I know, that's Superman, not Zod. But remember, we are saying Zod and WW are comparable in speed, and according to Carver, WW is FASTER than Superman. Ergo, Zod is equal to/faster than Superman.

And Superman did this:

So that's one point.

Second point is as Smurph pointed out - so what? Her hands are now holding a lasso. He uses his HV. She drops the lasso to block. He slips out. Or, she gets burned. It makes him.....see the truth of his actions? Tell her about his childhood on Krypton? What fanciful (MASTERFUL!!! as TGATES would say) scenario needs to be cooked up, whilst Zod just has to......HV away, HV that is powerful enough to blow his own skull off.


Originally posted by Smurph
Counterpoint:

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Lol, I replied to the same point back in days ago
You replied by posting scans that had nothing to do with your original contention re: teambusting.

And you're still doing it. You keep trying to prevaricate and stretch the page to obfuscate how utterly wrong you were.

Just admit that Wonder Woman has teambusted better than Zod. Then we can move forward.

Originally posted by ODG
You replied by posting scans that had nothing to do with your original contention

I posted the scans because *you* mentioned the lasso and the claim first, a reply you made to counter my post about Eradicator
Originally posted by ODG
Eradicator trying to choke out Zod with his own hands would turn out differently from Wonder Woman trying to choke out Zod with her Lasso of Truth.

Or are you backtracking this statement?

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
I posted the scans because *you* mentioned the lasso and the claim first, a reply you made to counter my post about Eradicator

Or are you backtracking this statement? I am a b1tch who cannot admit that my reference to Zod's teambusting feat is utterly outclassed by Wonder Woman's teambusting feat and I have to keep deflecting

Well... there it is. 👆

Originally posted by ODG
Well... there it is. 👆

Well, like I said before.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Honestly, you acting like an arrogant spoiled 12 year old, who didn't even bother to read others' posts fully and completely ignore the following points
😕

The comparison wasn't just because Zod team busted, but he team busted a group that included someone who dominated Wonder Woman. Can the same type of example against Zod be said?

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Well, like I said before.
Uh... you keep saying nothing.

You could not accept how utterly reputed your initial reply to me was over teambusting comparisons.

Point stands. I argued Wonder Woman wins here. You clumsily retorted with -- what you thought was some exceptional Zod teambusting feat-- only to be confronted with a Wonder Woman teambusting feat that sh1ts on it.

And for several pages, your ego prevents you from owning up to that and moving on to other considerations that would move this thread's discussions forward in a constructive manner.

You da b1tch here. Any supposed impasse is completely manufactured by you.

Originally posted by ODG
Uh... you keep saying nothing.

You could not accept how utterly reputed your initial reply to me was over teambusting comparisons.

Point stands. I argued Wonder Woman wins here. You clumsily retorted with -- what you thought was some exceptional Zod teambusting feat-- only to be confronted with a Wonder Woman teambusting feat that sh1ts on it.

And for several pages, your ego prevents you from owning up to that and moving on to other considerations that would move this thread's discussions forward in a constructive manner.

You da b1tch here.


Lol, you are missing the point. I didn't argue about team-busting. I'm arguing about the comparison between Zod and Wonder Woman when they're facing the *same* character

Me, Smurph, and recently, Delta all pointed this part.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Except Zod can withstand Eradicator's attacks(and overpowers him), while Wonder Woman is down with one attack?

If Zod or Wonder Woman doesn't fight Eradicator you may have some points. But the fact is *they both fight Eradicator*, there is a comparator

Or use Smurph's Mongul example

You're turning to Carver every day, ODG


Originally posted by Smurph
Zod's never faced Grail, Giganta, Silver Swan, etc. But Zod and Wonder Woman have both faced:

Supergirl
Superman
Mongul
Eradicator
Cyborg Superman
Hal
Kyle

...and Zod looks way better in every comparison.


Originally posted by Delta1938
The comparison wasn't just because Zod team busted, but he team busted a group that included someone who dominated Wonder Woman. Can the same type of example against Zod be said?

^ By all means, pretend that Circe and Grail don't utterly confound this supposed exception you and your peanut gallery are trying to attach here after the fact.

Stand by your position or don't.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Lol, you are missing the point. I didn't argue about team-busting.
Oh, you didn't? What's this then?
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
And this is Zod, with a large brain damage, overpowers Cyborg Superman plus Eradicator. And later, even with Suicide Squad help(one of them also is Enchantress, who uses magic), Zod still again overpowers all of them
https://ibb.co/RD77kVf
https://ibb.co/RTLtdgQ
https://ibb.co/80cXPQV
https://ibb.co/wSSXs5L
https://ibb.co/r6D44Qv
https://ibb.co/Qkp5yZT
What's that then?

All of a sudden, when you invoke a subject and get utterly double-penetrated by comic book facts because Wonder Woman's teambusting feat sh1ts on that, you pretend you never brought it up?

Is it your own embarrassed ego or your own absentmindedness that leads you to this?