Originally posted by ODG
^ By all means, pretend that Circe and Grail don't utterly confound this supposed exception you and your peanut gallery are trying to attach here after the fact.Stand by your position or don't.
You just attacking a strawman here and pretending you've some points
Originally posted by ODG
Oh, you didn't? What's this then? What's that then?All of a sudden, when you invoke a subject and get utterly double-penetrated by comic book facts, you pretend you never brought it up?
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
But on the other hand, Zod can also be argued he seems far more impressive when facing these strongest alien racesFor example
*Eradicator* casually defeated Wonder Woman with one blast
https://ibb.co/rHzQyqk
https://ibb.co/PzxMWnM
https://ibb.co/8bpTpV8
https://ibb.co/Q7gF13KAnd this is Zod, with a large brain damage, overpowers Cyborg Superman plus *Eradicator*. And later, even with Suicide Squad help(one of them also is Enchantress, who uses magic), Zod still again overpowers all of them
https://ibb.co/RD77kVf
https://ibb.co/RTLtdgQ
https://ibb.co/80cXPQV
https://ibb.co/wSSXs5L
https://ibb.co/r6D44Qv
https://ibb.co/Qkp5yZTIf character A fights Tyson every day in box, but every time he is casually defeated by Tyson
And then, Character B comes in, beats Tyson in box
I won't bet A would win a box fight B. Even though B doesn't fight Tyson on a regular basis. I also doubt A with different fight style will be much a factor in this fight
I even made my stance clearer in the following post
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998If Zod or Wonder Woman doesn't fight Eradicator you may have some points. But the fact is *they both fight Eradicator*, there is a comparator
Or use Smurph's Mongul example
Originally posted by ODG
That's exactly what you did you schizophrenic moron.Re-read your own replies to me in this thread.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
For example
*Eradicator* casually defeated Wonder Woman with one blast
https://ibb.co/rHzQyqk
https://ibb.co/PzxMWnM
https://ibb.co/8bpTpV8
https://ibb.co/Q7gF13KAnd this is Zod, with a large brain damage, overpowers Cyborg Superman plus *Eradicator*. And later, even with Suicide Squad help(one of them also is Enchantress, who uses magic), Zod still again overpowers all of them
https://ibb.co/RD77kVf
https://ibb.co/RTLtdgQ
https://ibb.co/80cXPQV
https://ibb.co/wSSXs5L
https://ibb.co/r6D44Qv
https://ibb.co/Qkp5yZT
As you can clearly see here, they both faced Eradicator
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998Hey, man. If you cannot understand that your retarded ABC logic doesn't fly during honest discourse... particularly when Wonder Woman would actually dominate the ABC comparisons here with the teambusting comparisons... then you just a stupid b1tch.
Lol, read the full postI.E, I'm talking about Eradicator, who defeated WW with one blast.
I even made my stance clearer in the following post
Can't simplify it to the point of overcoming your butthurt ego. Only thing I can offer is my middle finger.
You cannot honestly discuss this topic.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Correct. 👆 It wasn't the issue.... once it was shown that Wonder Woman sh1ts on Zod in that category.
Yeah I don't think the issue was *Zod does well against teambusters*
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Is Eradicator in this thread? Is Eradicator a close analogue for either of these combatants?
It was *Zod does well against the Eradicator*
It's about as stupid as a Thor vs. Hulk thread and deflecting towards how Thor fought Absorbing Man.
Originally posted by ODG
Hey, man. If you cannot understand that your retarded ABC logic doesn't fly during honest discourse... particularly when Wonder Woman would actually dominate the ABC comparisons here with the teambusting comparisons... then you just a stupid b1tch.Can't simplify it to the point of overcoming your butthurt ego.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah I don't think the issue was *Zod does well against teambusters*It was *Zod does well against the Eradicator*
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998I have continued to sh1t on your invocation of ABC logic...
You keep repeating the same doesn't make your point anymore convincing.Yeah, pretty much. Like I said before, nobody is arguing about teambusters, it's just the comparisons between the opponents they both faced.
...and somehow you persist with the ABC logic as if it were somehow in your favor. You don't want to talk about Circe or Grail... noooooooo. You don't want to talk about Wonder Woman's teambusting either, noooooooo,... you just want to talk about Eradicator. And only Eradicator.
How suspiciously selective. How completely myopic. How utterly undeterminative.
You are either blind or disarmed. I do not believe you to be that moronic. I do believe you to be that consumed by your own ego. Like a flat-earther who is shown every single planet's spherical shape... but somehow, you magically aren't arguing about the Earth's shape now.
Prevaricating c#nt b1tch. Wander off and salve your bleeding anus. You have nothing to offer this thread's discussion any further.
Originally posted by ODG
I have continued to sh1t on your invocation of ABC logic......and somehow you persist with the ABC logic as if it were somehow in your favor. You don't want to talk about Circe or Grail... noooooooo. You don't want to talk about Wonder Woman's teambusting either, noooooooo,... you just want to talk about Eradicator. And only Eradicator.
How suspiciously selective. How completely myopic. How utterly undeterminative.
You are either blind or disarmed. I do not believe you to be that moronic. I do believe you to be that consumed by your own ego. Like a flat-earther who is shown every single planet's spherical shape... but somehow, you magically aren't arguing about the Earth's shape now.
Prevaricating c#nt b1tch. Wander off and salve your bleeding anus. You have nothing to offer this thread's discussion any further.
Like, re-read the exchange between Smurph and Carver's posts. Like I said before, you seem just going Carver on this topic
Originally posted by Smurph
Reread your own post. I made a point about Wonder Woman, who is in this thread, you "countered" with Superman, who isn't in this thread.I keep bringing it back to Wonder Woman vs Mongul compared to Zod vs Mongul because Wonder Woman and Zod are both in this thread.
Zod has never faced Amazo, and you keep trying to go back to that well by ignoring all the context that you would insist were relevant for any other character. And then if DS or I rub your face in that context, you switch debate points until you circle back to this.
We have no comparator of Zod vs Amazo, or Flash, or omega beams. We do have comparators in Mongul, and Supergirl, and Kyle Rayner. All those comparisons decisively favour Zod.
Originally posted by Smurph
What?Zod vs Superman is relevant. Zod vs Mongul is relevant. Wonder Woman vs Mongul is relevant.
"Countering" Wonder Woman vs Mongul with Superman vs Mongul is... irrelevant.
Are you keeping up?
Or like Delta pointed out
Originally posted by Delta1938
The comparison wasn't just because Zod team busted, but he team busted a group that included someone who dominated Wonder Woman. Can the same type of example against Zod be said?
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998You brought the ABC logic. Case in point:
You brought an ABC logic that is irrelevant to the topic.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998Yea. That was you. The entire time. So stfu. Go ahead and make an Eradicator vs Wonder Woman thread.
Zod Vs Eradicator is relevant because wwaaaahhhhhblaaahahbllahhahhh
Otherwise, get it through your exceptionally thick cro-magnon skull that neither of the characters in this thread are close analogs of Eradicator. As I stated from the start.
And you keep pretending that you account for that, but you don't. Otherwise, you'd understand that Eradicator is about as relevant as Circe or Grail. Both of whom you keep dismissing as soon as I mentioned them. Yet you keep dismissing Circe and Grail but keep flopping here in this thread and slobbering about Eradicator.
Choose a standard and stand by it you immature b1tch. Or don't and shut up.
Originally posted by ODG
Otherwise, you'd understand that Eradicator is about as relevant as Circe or Grail.
Smurph pointed this out, Delta pointed this out. You can go full Carver and ignore this fact and continue using verbal abuse. But it won't change this fact
Edit:
Also, are you going to admit you're wrong in these posts? As..it does seem like you just blindly typed these words without looking the entire posts
Originally posted by ODG
Oh, you didn't? What's this then? What's that then?All of a sudden, when you invoke a subject and get utterly double-penetrated by comic book facts because Wonder Woman's teambusting feat sh1ts on that, you pretend you never brought it up?
Is it your own embarrassed ego or your own absentmindedness that leads you to this?
Originally posted by ODG
That's exactly what you did you schizophrenic moron.Re-read your own replies to me in this thread.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998Does your b1tch-a$$ not realize this is the simplest form of ABC logic? After all your protests that you weren't relying on ABC logic or that your position wasn't underpinned by such infantile sophism?
Except Eradicator faced *both* Zod and Wonder Woman while Circe or Grail didn't face Zod.
Circe and Grail would probably stomp both Zod and Eradicator. Wonder Woman defeating both Circe and Grail, both separately and when they teamed up, doesn't prove Wonder Woman stomps Zod or Eradicator.
FFS, Eradicator isn't in this thread you utter buffoon.
Originally posted by ODG
Circe and Grail would probably stomp both Zod and Eradicator.
Also
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Edit:
Also, are you going to admit you're wrong in these posts? As..it does seem like you just blindly typed these words without looking the entire posts
We're not comparing Wonder Woman to Eradicator and saying they're similar. Or Zod to Eradicator.
We're looking at Wonder Woman's performance against Eradicator and comparing it to Zod's performance against same.
And similar with Supergirl. And Mongul. And the GLs. Etc.
I hear you that Wonder Woman herself is different than those characters and we need to consider those differences. Fair enough. But the point is that she would need those things to be enough to overcome a significant difference in how they stack up when we look at their actual fights against the same opponents.
That's not ABC logic. It's 1:1 comparisons.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998But I do have "proofs" that Wonder Woman could solo Circe and Grail along with Giganta, Silver Swan, Angle Man and Doctor Psycho.
Well, the word *probably* I think is the point here. You've no proofs that they *did* stomp them.
So if you want to argue that Zod could do better -- and by virtue defeat Wonder Woman -- than make that argument. Eradicator ain't in this thread. This thread has Zod in it.
Otherwise, you are just squirming to avoid your infantile ABC logic being shoved back into your slackjawed mouth.
Originally posted by ODG
But I do have "proofs" that Wonder Woman could solo Circe and Grail along with Giganta, Silver Swan, Angle Man and Doctor Psycho.
Zod is in this thread, WW is in this thread. Eradicator and other characters whom Smurph named are comparators for both. Because they *both* faced the same opponents and gave their performances
On the other hand, Circe and Grail and whatever you named Zod never faced them so far. There isn't any performance you can use to compare, hence, it's not related to the topic
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998Phucking Christ do you have no self-consciousness?
You brought an ABC logic that is irrelevant to the topic.
If you want to make this an ABC argument, ohhhh... I got some sh1t for you.
Just stop pretending your entire protest this entire time isn't infantile ABC logic.
Just phucking admit it.
Originally posted by ODG
What I am trying to say is that Wonder Woman has got an edge in terms of "opponent experience" over Zod. Wonder Woman has a wealth of experience fighting the strongest alien races, specifically, Kryptonians in DC.
I mean, this is where you joined us.
So we're going by common opponents, and seeing their experience with both. Eradicator being one, Mongul/Hal/Kyle being three others.
Originally posted by ODG
Phucking Christ do you have no self-consciousness?If you want to make this an ABC argument, ohhhh... I got some sh1t for you.
Just stop pretending your entire protest this entire time isn't infantile ABC logic.
Just phucking admit it.
Originally posted by Smurph
We're not comparing Wonder Woman to Eradicator and saying they're similar. Or Zod to Eradicator.We're looking at Wonder Woman's performance against Eradicator and comparing it to Zod's performance against same.
And similar with Supergirl. And Mongul. And the GLs. Etc.
I hear you that Wonder Woman herself is different than those characters and we need to consider those differences. Fair enough. But the point is that she would need those things to be enough to overcome a significant difference in how they stack up when we look at their actual fights against the same opponents.
That's not ABC logic. It's 1:1 comparisons.