Who can stop... Dr. Flobo!? (read stips)

Originally posted by Galan007
I mean, isn't that what Lobo's doing?

I meant in a lab or preparation room. For example, Thanos has made clones of himself multiple times.

Originally posted by Galan007
@Smurph

Regarding your multiversal Shadow King embodiment strat: If you're going that route(and since I don't know enough to debate SK's capabilities otherwise), then I guess it's finally time to pull out the big guns ...[*uncomfortable pause*]... Dr. Flobo will have direct access to the Ultimate Nullifier during his prep phase *thx Doom*:
https://ibb.co/rR8mMzSp

On top of that, Dr. Flobo has direct access to The Hall of Lost and Found at the JL Watchtower as well *thx Wally*. Aside from the obvious, items like the Cosmic Treadmill and/or Worlogog could also allow for scenarios like this to unfold:

ie. Dr. Flobo could theoretically use time shenanigans to endlessly duplicate/spam every single relic he has immediate access to(*if needed, for some reason)... And any thought-based weapons(like the UN) are being fueled by the indomitable will and unparalleled god-brain of Doom+Lobo(IOW, bound to be successful.)

...So yeah, I couldn't think of a more unbeatable amalgam under these conditions. Personally, I wouldn't have Dr. Flobo use the aforementioned resources unless absolutely necessary. That's no fun, and you can't really counter an "OTK" like that(especially with unbalanced prep.)

This thread is basically The Kobayashi Maru of amalgam strats. 🪩

Well, that seems mostly unbearable...

... although if there was one character who might be simply immune to Nullifier and time shenanigans (and that's a big if, tbf), it would be Meggan. For what that's worth.

Jamie Braddock and the UN are two different things, but in theory if she's just sort of snipped her quantum strings then...

Originally posted by h1a8
A magical spell can seal, absorb, and or contain him.
Flobo can cast the spell in less than an attosecond.

Originally posted by Galan007
And that would be his amalgam's problem, imo. Even with Barry-level speed, Fantomexwell-Lord would still be a statue relative to a prepped/amped Dr. Flobo. Because of this, he would never get the opportunity to activate his power/strategy before Dr. Flobo IMP'd him to a pulp, imo. 👆

Yes, you assumes that Fantomex's powers need to activate, though. I am saying it can be argued either way, as comics never show 'this is before the illusion/this is after the illusion activates'.

I am liking how much of my BZs are coming into play here, though. Lobo, Wally, Aquarian, Fate, Fantomex - all characters I have used in BZs, using tactics (clone/speedsteal Wallys, flooding the field with Lobos, using pwoer negation from Aquarian etc) that I argued. Hell, there may even be hitherto unseen tactics that Galan has hidden up his sleeve, from my BZ posts (exploding numbers!) that people should check out....

Originally posted by Smurph
Great. Which spell? Let's see some scans.

Doom possesses spells capable of sealing entities. You must prove that the Shadow King is immune to them.

Also, he can bfred.

Which spells are these, I think is what Smurph says. You say he has these spells; ok, what are they like?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Which spells are these, I think is what Smurph says. You say he has these spells; ok, what are they like?

Probably not, as Galan is using the Doom that rivals Dr Strange (see OP). Sorcerer Supreme Doom outclasses Strange.

Moreover, you'd still need to showcase what spells lol. And transference of titles doesn't mean transference of knowledge AFAIK, but I guess you'd have to prove that tangent.

Originally posted by h1a8
Doom possesses spells capable of sealing entities. You must prove that the Shadow King is immune to them.

Also, he can bfred.

With other posters I could have a conversation in good faith about possible spells that Doom might know, but you don't argue in good faith. You will waste people's time shifting the burden of proof wherever possible while asserting your notions as fact.

So let's see the sealing spells, so we can talk about their applicability to Shadow King.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Probably not, as Galan is using the Doom that rivals Dr Strange (see OP). Sorcerer Supreme Doom outclasses Strange.

Moreover, you'd still need to showcase what spells lol. And transference of titles doesn't mean transference of knowledge AFAIK, but I guess you'd have to prove that tangent.

I thought Sorcerer Supreme was just a title.

Well, if it's more than that, Strange still retains knowledge of all the spells he's ever used. He can still banish and seal entities, though they might not be as effective without full backing from those mystical gods.

Strange/Doom can banish or send others to other dimensions, bind them with mystic bands, etc

Originally posted by h1a8
I thought Sorcerer Supreme was just a title.

Well, if it's more than that, Strange still retains knowledge of all the spells he's ever used. He can still banish and seal entities, though they might not be as effective without full backing from those mystical gods.

Strange/Doom can banish or send others to other dimensions, bind them with mystic bands, etc

Strange isn't in this thread.

Originally posted by Smurph
I can't prove that SK is immune to something without you showing what the thing is.

With other posters I could have a conversation in good faith about possible spells that Doom might know, but you don't argue in good faith. You will waste people's time shifting the burden of proof wherever possible while asserting your notions as fact.

So let's see the sealing spells, so we can talk about their applicability to Shadow King.

Just basic spells like binding others with mystical energy, teleporting himself and others to different dimensions, etc. - things we've seen him do countless times.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Strange isn't in this thread.

Originally posted by h1a8
Just basic spells like binding others with mystical energy, teleporting himself and others to different dimensions, etc. - things we've seen him do countless times.

Otherwise, you fail to meet your burden of proof. Go away.

Originally posted by h1a8
Doom is equal to Strange in this thread

Cool.

So we should have plenty of scans showing Doom doing what you assert. We don't give special attributes without proof.

Originally posted by h1a8
Doom is equal to Strange in this thread

Originally posted by Galan007
Doom is Doom in this thread. Stop.

My statement was based off your OP
...,has a magical skillset rivaling Doctor Strange

I thought that was your intent since RIVALING means "being equal to or close in ability".

The greatest flaw of humanity is its ability to misunderstand itself.

Ok.

So show us the skillset of Doom that gives him the ability you speak of.

Originally posted by h1a8
Stop?
Give me the benefit of the doubt Galan.

My statement was based off your OP
...,has a magical [b]skillset rivaling Doctor Strange

I thought that was your intent since RIVALING means "being equal to or close in ability".

The greatest flaw of humanity is its ability to misunderstand itself. [/B]

Doom has a magical skillset rivaling Doctor Strange. That is not Galan overriding the basic rule that feats don't transfer.

Of course, even if they did transfer, you would still have to provide Dr Strange scans, which you won't, so this is all smoke anyways.

Originally posted by Smurph
Nobody needs to tell you how the forum works. Galan describing the amalgam didn't displace the basic rules that you would happily lecture about if the burden of proof were reversed.

Doom has a magical skillset rivaling Doctor Strange. That is not Galan overriding the basic rule that feats don't transfer.

Of course, even if they did transfer, you would still have to provide Dr Strange scans, which you won't, so this is all smoke anyways.

But it is if that was his intent.

If my OP includes the stipulation, "In this thread, Superman has a magical skillset rivaling Dr. Strange," then it stands as law.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Ok.

So show us the skillset of [B]Doom that gives him the ability you speak of. [/B]