Originally posted by Galan007
If the context of the issues is incontrovertibly: "WWH is the strongest Hulk", then I don't see why there was an issue accepting it in the first place? Frankly, it doesn't even really change my opinion of WWH, as I've always viewed him as the most powerful standard/base version of Hulk anyway(below WBH, obvs.)
Pretty sure it's confirmed that the Hulk Carv is showing in his scans is WB/Green Scar, not WWH, so that showing would be invalid for threads saying 'WWH' anyway.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Pretty sure it's confirmed that the Hulk Carv is showing in his scans is WB/Green Scar, not WWH, so that showing would be invalid for threads saying 'WWH' anyway.
WWH is greenscar, weirdo. A number of people have mentioned that to you before. While we are at it. Let's throw this Hulk in there as well. He admits he is the same Hulk that fought the Avengers and Sentry.
Originally posted by carver9
[B]WWH is greenscar, weirdo. A number of people have mentioned that to you before. While we are at it. Let's throw this Hulk in there as well. He admits he is the same Hulk that fought the Avengers and Sentry.
Yes, but on the forum, if the thread specified 'WWH', your Immortal Hulk scans are invalid, as it clearly states that it's WBH/Green Scar.
NOW do you see why I was so happy, and so confused why you were getting so happy, lol. If the thread says 'WWH', then the max power we can see him at is him in the middle of the fight with Sentry.
IF the thread says 'Green Scar' then your scans are valid. If it states 'WBH', then of course your scans are valid.
But if the thread says 'WWH', you can't use your scans, lmao.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yes, but on the forum, if the thread specified 'WWH', your Immortal Hulk scans are invalid, as it clearly states that it's WBH/Green Scar.NOW do you see why I was so happy, and so confused why you were getting so happy, lol. If the thread says 'WWH', then the max power we can see him at is him in the middle of the fight with Sentry.
IF the thread says 'Green Scar' then your scans are valid. If it states 'WBH', then of course your scans are valid.
But if the thread says 'WWH', you can't use your scans, lmao.
Lol... he wasn't called World War Hulk in any comic. Thats a name KMC gave him 😂 . So no, you'll never see them refer to him as that because that phrase doesnt exist in comics. How TF are you going to expect a writer to give a character a name that only exist in the forum. Did they call Doomsday Death of Superman Doomsday? No!!! Thats forum terminology. He's in his WWH (KMC term) outfit, and that is exactly who it is, the same Hulk. Weirdo!!!
Originally posted by carver9
Lol... he wasn't called World War Hulk in any comic. Thats a name KMC gave him 😂 . So no, you'll never see them refer to him as that because that phrase doesnt exist in comics. How TF are you going to expect a writer to give a character a name that only exist in the forum. Did they call Doomsday Death of Superman Doomsday? No!!! Thats forum terminology. He's in his WWH (KMC term) outfit, and that is exactly who it is, the same Hulk. Weirdo!!!
That's....not the ruling.
In an effort to create a common and cohesive forum vocabulary(and provide some "default settings" as it were), the following Hulk-terminology will now be defined as such..."WWH" (World War Hulk): This is Hulk at the levels featured in the main "World War Hulk" storyline, up to the conclusion of his fight with Sentry in the final issue. That should be considered his base level. 'WBH-mode' is not accessible to this version (*see below*)
What was it you said? 'Cry more, my shoulder is here for you'? 😂
Clear as day what the default is if a thread starter says 'WWH'. Good scans though. Clearly states it's Green Scar/WB. If you want to use those scans, find a Green Scar thread and post them 😂 just not in a WWH thread, why is this so difficult to understand?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That's....not the ruling.What was it you said? 'Cry more, my shoulder is here for you'? 😂
Clear as day what the default is if a thread starter says 'WWH'. Good scans though. Clearly states it's Green Scar/WB. If you want to use those scans, find a Green Scar thread and post them 😂 just not in a WWH thread, why is this so difficult to understand?
You should be having this conversation with Galan.
Originally posted by Galan007
If a specific iteration of Hulk was referenced after the arc itself, then it should still be [retroactively] applicable to the version in question. Again, we'd do that for any other character.
Im curious to see if he will change his mind on his statement above, but the fts stand. Sorry!!!
Originally posted by carver9
WWH is greenscar, weirdo. A number of people have mentioned that to you before. While we are at it. Let's throw this Hulk in there as well. He admits he is the same Hulk that fought the Avengers and Sentry.
Just by-the-by: your scan clearly states this is the Hulk AFTER he had fought the Sentry. So.....
"WBH" (World Breaker Hulk): This refers to Hulk after he fought Sentry and snapped one last time, becoming 'The World Breaker'. Generally speaking, this version's base can be regarded as "Heart of the Monster"(HotM)-level.
Again, this Hulk would be classed as WBH on the forum. Good scan , though, beastly feat for WBH.
Originally posted by carver9
You should be having this conversation with Galan.Im curious to see if he will change his mind on his statement above, but the fts stand. Sorry!!!
Yes, but it wasn't WWH that was referenced. It was Green Scar. Your scan clearly states this.
So I agree with him and you - if the thread calls for Green Scar, this scan is absolutely 100% valid. If it calls for WWH, however......then its not,
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Just by-the-by: your scan clearly states this is the Hulk AFTER he had fought the Sentry. So.....Again, this Hulk would be classed as WBH on the forum. Good scan , though, beastly feat for WBH.
Yes, but it wasn't WWH that was referenced. It was Green Scar. Your scan clearly states this.
So I agree with him and you - if the thread calls for Green Scar, this scan is absolutely 100% valid. If it calls for WWH, however......then its not,
No Hulk has been called World War Hulk. Please stop saying this. Read this again and tell me what it says 🤦🏿
Originally posted by carver9
No Hulk has been called World War Hulk. Please stop saying this. Read this again and tell me what it says 🤦🏿
Yes.
"The Hulk who DEFEATED.....the Sentry himself." (thanks for the scan!!!)
I.e. this is the Hulk AFTER he had fought the Sentry, lmao. DEFEATED. AFTER the fight. WBH, as per forum ruling. Makes sense, as he's saying its the strongest Hulk there's ever been, just like we all agree (WBH!)
NOW do you see why I was so confused as to your simple agreement? Did you honestly not see all this?
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Are you actually trying to claim that this would be WWH? Because as per the rulings, it's classified as WBH/Green Scar. So like Galan said, 100% valid and acceptable in a thread that specifies Green Scar or WBH.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yes."The Hulk who DEFEATED.....the Sentry himself." (thanks for the scan!!!)
I.e. this is the Hulk AFTER he had fought the Sentry, lmao. DEFEATED. AFTER the fight. WBH, as per forum ruling. Makes sense, as he's saying its the strongest Hulk there's ever been, just like we all agree (WBH!)
NOW do you see why I was so confused as to your simple agreement? Did you honestly not see all this?
....
Are you actually trying to claim that this would be WWH? Because as per the rulings, it's classified as WBH/Green Scar. So like Galan said, 100% valid and acceptable in a thread that specifies Green Scar or WBH.
He's naming everyone he's fought and defeated but you're sticking with Sentry. WBH didn't defeat Sentry and Greenscar/WWH was there AFTER defeating Sentry. Greenscar IS the strongest Hulk. I never denied that.
What you're not getting is, the term WWH will not be spelled out in a comic because we made it up. A writer would say Greenscar. That is the same Hulk.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
It's basically the idea "it's the same character, but not necessarily the same iteration"
Superman can make references about his fight with Doomsday(like in Rebirth era, or post Dark Crisis era etc), it doesn't mean we can transfer post-DoS Superman feats to DoS Superman
You all did do something similar. Which Doomsday fought the imperiex probes?
Originally posted by ODG
^ If the current controversy emerges from the same two usual suspects, then they can abide by the mod ruling as it stands.The rest of the forum shouldn't be obliged to promote that reconciliation but I guess to avoid all conjecture and prevarication, maybe let's all just try to use "Green Scar" as opposed to "WWH". Forum-wide old habits die hard, sure.
If people are trying to argue that Green Scar should never have any of the famously, but KMC-artificially distinguished, "WBH" feats as it were, that's a completely different discussion.
Spoiler:But even that debate can be avoided by simply defining the thread OP as "Green Scar w/o WBH-level feats".
And you'd be absolutely wrong but whatever, cash me outside, b1tch.If the OP isn't that restricted, then you engage per the OP's stipulations. Or you don't.
If you're unsure, then ask what the limitations are.
As far as I am concerned, unless the thread OP twists/misinterprets comics, there's no need to argue over any of this.
Galan... I have a question. It seems like the phrase WWH is causing confusion. Since the wording of this was never used in comics and it is something that is basically made up by the forum, can we get rid of the word entirely like ODG mentioned above and just stick with Greenscar? WBH is his own character and that wording is Canon to the story. WWH doesnt exist and should have never been used to determine this version of Hulk since his true name is Greenscar.
Originally posted by carver9
Galan... I have a question. It seems like the phrase WWH is causing confusion. Since the wording of this was never used in comics and it is something that is basically made up by the forum, can we get rid of the word entirely like ODG mentioned above and just stick with Greenscar? WBH is his own character and that wording is Canon to the story. WWH doesnt exist and should have never been used to determine this version of Hulk since his true name is Greenscar.
Source: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t577880.html
"WWH" (World War Hulk): This is Hulk at the levels featured in the main "World War Hulk" storyline, up to the conclusion of his fight with Sentry in the final issue. That should be considered his base level. 'WBH-mode' is not accessible to this version (*see below*)"WBH" (World Breaker Hulk): This refers to Hulk after he fought Sentry and snapped one last time, becoming 'The World Breaker'. Generally speaking, this version's base can be regarded as "Heart of the Monster"(HotM)-level.
"Green Scar": This is a broad title which basically covers that entire [cumulative] chunk of Hulk's history. His base is still WWH-level, but this version also has the potential to activate 'WBH-mode' during the battle itself(assuming he gets the right kind of mental 'nudge', of course.)
