That automatically makes the manga infinitely better then the manga.
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So #17 and Vegeta will be out by the end of ep. 128(hope the former is eliminated after expending his 'infinite' energy reactor.) In ep. 129 Goku will attain UI again, and somehow master it within the 2 minutes that remain in the ToP, lol. STILL no mention of Freeza... He's going to win this f*cking thing.
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Last edited by Galan007 on Feb 9th, 2018 at 08:09 PM
Anyway, did some soul searching and think Beerus was right when he said Goku couldn't beat Frieza at base. Let's see while giving Goku the benefit of the doubt.
Goku was 150 000 000 and 3 million at base. Frieza was 120 000 000.
Trunks was about equal with Goku on Namek. Let's assume Future Gohan was equal to Goku on Namek even though he wasn't. So our base for everything is 150 million.
Future Android 17 was more than double Gohan's power. 300 million at least. The Androids were far more powerful than Trunks. We'll say 350 million each. Imperfect Cell was around 400 million we'll say. If we assume everyone added up (even though the implication is it didn't and Cell was way too powerful after getting 18), that comes out to 1.1 billion. Let's say Goku was equal to that.
Let's say Goku after getting back from otherworld was twice as strong in SS form. 2.2 billion. That would put his SS3 form as 17.6 billion. If Gohan was twice as strong as Goku, that would be 35.2 billion. During BoG Goku was stated as being the strongest, and we'll make him 40 billion just to be safe. Divide that by 800 to get his base and we get...
50 million. Even making Goku at 80 billion makes him weaker than Frieza by 20 million. Obviously a KK would make him win but that doesn't matter.
Do I think Beerus accurately knew all the power levels or even saw 100 percent Frieza? No. But I do think he was correct in his statement. Goku could not beat Frieza at full power without a transformation. I used to think it was ridiculous since the powers got out of control, but even at the limits of being out of control Goku still falls short.
Now go back to completely spoiling Super for everyone.
^ brandon is such a fcuking nurd... Nice to have you back, tho.
Freeza definitely isn't out right now. And I feel like if he were going to be eliminated in the next few episodes, the previews would mention something of the sort... But instead, no mention of Freeza whatsoever.
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Nah, he'll still be in it. Somehow I just don't see Freeza's elimination being handled so nonchalantly in the previews... Not when said previews also mention #17 and Vegeta getting eliminated. /shrug
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Last edited by Galan007 on Feb 10th, 2018 at 02:11 PM
For a bit of wank, Vegeta, according to Jiren, was throwing punches capable of taking down Hakaishin Toppo...and Jiren handles them like nothing. Starting to think Jiren really is stronger than all the Destroyers.
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He is stronger than the Gods. He stood in a single spot and let Blue Vegeta pound on him without even flinching. That alone should put him above the Gods.
Wouldn't the correct way of Android 17 to sacrifice himself for Universe 7 would be to let Jirens energy blasts hit him without protecting himself instead of blowing himself up and be killed by it? Thus disqualifying Jiren for killing someone.